Did France deserve what it happens? Is this just the beginning?

Nov 23, 2015 16:16

After watching this movie produced by BBC and Shaista Aziz "A nation divided? A Charlie Hebdo aftermath", the first thing that came into my mind, was that France is not what you know from the social media and movies. Unfortunately not. France is a country strongly divided into one biggest french speaking, born in France and looking french group and ( Read more... )

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abomvubuso November 23 2015, 14:43:24 UTC
which can accept the homosexuals to adopt children (Which is very awful)

Hey, there's one thing you and the Islamist radicals are of the same opinion on.

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htpcl November 23 2015, 15:34:14 UTC
I'm sorry, but your linked video is encoded and won't open.

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htpcl November 23 2015, 15:51:51 UTC
Hm, upon a couple of refresh attempts, it seems to be working okay now.

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danieldemarko November 23 2015, 15:54:57 UTC
Sorry for the video, I do know what was the problem. As I'm reading the comments, I wonder if someone already has seen it and knows the plot? Or it doesn't matter, "I must be first."

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ddstory November 23 2015, 17:30:56 UTC
I did start watching it, and from what I saw, it feels like this documentary is not at all impartial, portraying Muslims as victims. It became clear from the first minute of the piece that Shaista Aziz has an axe to grind. The non-Muslims that she interviews are almost exclusively from the right or ultra-right political sector. How can this give an accurate picture of the debate in modern France? Of the people she does interview, she doesn't even make an attempt to take a balanced position, but instead spends her time jabbing her fingers at, and speaking over, her interviewees like some kind of female Muslim version of Sean Hannity. Why did she not interview any well-integrated French Muslims of which there are millions? All in all, quite a one-sided piece that doesn't even attempt to pretend to be balanced.

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Is that the best you've got? luvdovz November 23 2015, 17:31:47 UTC
At first the program started in a promising way. But then it descended into the same old PC stuff that you could typically expect from the BBC. Even the subtitles were altered to satisfy the new PC standards (fundamentalists instead of Islamists, etc). And of course, the Muslims were presented as 100% victims. There was absolutely no introspection, no questioning of one's own behavior. For example, the presenter went into a government building with her headscarf on, which is explicitly prohibited by French law; imagine what would happen if someone reciprocated in a Muslim country ( ... )

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luzribeiro November 23 2015, 17:17:19 UTC
I have to admit, I'm impressed with the level that Google Translate has reached these days.

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mikeyxw November 23 2015, 17:21:24 UTC
I'm sure they could fix the "the homosexuals" bug easily but I'm glad they haven't. It's like a signature.

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policraticus November 23 2015, 17:40:38 UTC
FWIW, this is better than a wall of Cyrillic popping up on my feed.

And, if the was really translated with Google, that is pretty friggin impressive.

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abomvubuso November 23 2015, 17:43:31 UTC
Mocking people for their language skills is unacceptable. Chances are that you know zilch of their language, so it's advisable that you all back off.

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luzribeiro November 23 2015, 18:10:39 UTC
Fair point above. I apologize for my previous comment.

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