"The Executive Orders of America: Why Obama Has No Excuses, But To EXECUTE"

[ricomsmith77]

Originally posted by ricomsmith77 at "The Executive Orders of America: Why Obama Has No Excuses, But To EXECUTE"
Alright kids, its time for a little high school refresher course on CIVICS....

Comments

[telemann]

Yes. And Snopes has an article on this.

Claim: President Obama has issued a whopping 923 executive orders, many of which give the government unprecedented power to take over control of civilian institutions.

[nairiporter]

Frankly, I would be very glad to know your opinion and that of as many other Americans as possible, rather than Snopes'.

[telemann]

Well, I agreed with the post and gave some complimentary information why I agreed (in the form of a citation).

[nairiporter]

Oh. Sarcasm. :-)

[luzribeiro]

How surprising, eh? The president is an evil power-grabbing dictator (except when he's being a bowing sissy, which is most of the time if we're listening to FOX) - unless it's "our guy". Then he becomes a patriot. We know that game, right?

[anfalicious]

Informative post, thanks (we don't learn about the civics of other countries in our civics class ;) )

Just a quibble:

the Civil War.....the first real "race war" this country has seen

I can think of about 500 nations who would disagree with this ;)

[luvdovz]

the first real "race war" this country has seen

"This country", being USA. I don't know about the remaining 500 nations, but obviously it was the first race war that country had ever seen.

[anfalicious]

I'm alluding to the genocide against the nations that existed on the North American continent before the arrival of Europeans. By the time of the civil war they were mostly over after 300 years of constant fighting.

[luvdovz]

I find it a bit odd that a tribe is called a nation now. Another one of those fancy PC terms, I guess.

[dexeron]

Let's also not forget that what Obama actually did with his executive orders regarding immigration is pretty much identical to what Reagan did when he was in office. Yet somehow the right is painting this as the end of democracy as we know it, but somehow it was different when Saint Ronaldus Magnus did the same thing...?

exactly the same, only different

[geezer_also]

http://thefederalist.com/2014/11/20/no-reagan-did-not-offer-an-amnesty-by-lawless-executive-order/

The really sad thing about this for many of us on the right (especially those of us who deal with the effects of illegal immigration everyday) is that we are still not going to get secure borders.

RE: exactly the same, only different

[dexeron]

Basically the only argument in that article is: "the situation and reason why immigration action was required was different under other presidents, so Obama doing the exact same thing that Bush, Bush, and Reagan did is wrong." That's not a valid Constitutional or legal argument. Either the President has the authority, or doesn't. We can argue as to whether it's a GOOD policy decision, or a BENEFICIAL one, but I still have yet to see where there's any legal question apart from: "We agreed with it happening at those times, but we don't agree now, and things we don't like must be illegal, IMPEACH!"

[flaming_goat]

The number of executive orders issued is irrelevant to the issue of whether they are good or bad or legal or not. Are you deliberately trying to misrepresent the issue?

To be fair

[geezer_also]

I doubt it is deliberate. (in this case just another parrot) When one is using a rationalization to defend an action, one uses whatever is less likely to be challenged. It's all based on the old adage "figures don't lie, but liars figure". If the raw numbers don't work, there is always a way to manipulate percentages ;). My favorite example: If one loses a head to head competition, it is clear that you finished second while your opponent was next to last.