Rendering Unto Caesar: Ron Paul at the Fatima Center‏‏

[sophia_sadek]

When I was a wee lass I heard tell of a nefarious organization of rabid right wing political activism named after some sort of toilet tree. At least that is the kind of association that a child's mind makes when she hears the words john and birch mentioned by adults. The John Birchers earned a reputation similar to the Satan worshipers portrayed

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[vitsli]

>> mom and apple pie freedoms: denying poor women access to reproductive health services, obtaining firearms without a license, spewing pollutants into the environment, bringing other species of life to the brink of extinction, consuming fossil fuels at a profligate rate.

Nice straw man! ;)
You forgot unhealthy food and starving people to death though.

[sophia_sadek]

I did not intend the list to be exhaustive.

[vitsli]

We need more straw men arguments!

[sophia_sadek]

It sounds as though you did not view the John Bircher video.

[peamasii]

The John Birchers are a huge waste of my time (as are all Mormons in general), however I'm more intrigued and confused by the association of Ron Paul with the uber-catholic Fatima Center. Is this some kind of iso-reactionary alliance against globalization and its perceived evils? I thought Ron Paul was strictly the rationalist-atheist-materialist type and now he's getting support from crypto-catholics? WTF is going on.

[peamasii]

Ah never mind now I see the Fatima center is a defection fasce from catholicism. LOL

[sophia_sadek]

The Birchers are not a Mormon organization, though it would not surprise me if they had a significant Mormon membership. Skousen was a Mormon, hence Romney's interest (and Glenn Beck's interest) in his work.

I doubt that the Fatima Center would qualify as "uber-catholic" unless that term means pre-Vatican II Catholic.

I suspect your evaluation of an alliance against globalization is on target, but it is not opposition to the kind of globalization where the US dominates.

[telemann]

Alex Wagner interviewed Ron Paul last week about that; Ron Paul's laugh tick is pretty annoying.

[404]

Is that all you got out of a 14 minute interview?

[telemann]

lol

[404]

I guess so, huh.

[rimpala]

[sophia_sadek]

Nice visual art work.

[rimpala]

[sophia_sadek]

Like finger nails on a chalk board.

[oportet]

Now, it's not so much about how Ron Pauls actions reflect and affect him - but more how they reflect and affect his son. Pops can say some crazy shit, and put Jr. in a tough position come early 2016, or worse - late 2016.

To answer though, it doesn't surprise me. No, I don't think Ron Paul is an anti-Semite - he just wants somebody to listen to him - and if they'll pay to listen to him, great - and if they'll pay to listen to him but they hate jews, not great, but acceptable...

[sophia_sadek]

Some folks say that he came out okay from the MS-NBC interview. In some parts of the country, charges of anti-Semitism could be considered political capital.

[oportet]

I didn't think anti-semitism could be a positive - then again, Ron Paul/Mel Gibson 2016! might be catchy enough to get some votes...

[sophia_sadek]

Mel Gibson is seen as a hero in some neighborhoods.