The Gay Gene

Jun 18, 2008 17:22

Yet another study shows some evidence of a biological basis for homosexuality. On one hand, this is obvious. Human beings are constrained by their biology, and so everything done by a human is based in our biology ( Read more... )

science, politics, sociology

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mqstout June 19 2008, 12:45:11 UTC
t3knomanser June 20 2008, 13:11:21 UTC
"That, more than anything, empowers the bigots into shock therapy and gulag schools."

And the biological argument only encourages them to "treat" it.

What we need is a society that respects individual choice- then it wouldn't be a problem. But the human mind doesn't work that way- for millions of years the majority has ruled the behavior of the minority because our brains couldn't do anything better. They still can't, really.

"Will it be the base model, with heterosexuality costing more (oh the money that would make...)"

Well, the base model will always be the old fashioned way. So gene-mixers that try and hold certain traits hostage, especially common traits (the "old fashioned way" makes heterosexuality the base model, and rightly so- species with a shortage of mating behavior don't last long (I'm lookin' at you pandas!)) are competing against "free". So you wouldn't see something like that.

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mqstout June 20 2008, 14:20:08 UTC

manycolored June 19 2008, 15:06:05 UTC
"You must accept my sexual preference because I have no control over it," is a very weak grounds for social change. I much prefer, "You must accept my sexual preference because it's none of your goddamn business."

Once again, OH HELL YES.

If we decide that science has to justify our politics, we're just encouraging pseudoscience creep.

Not to mention, MYOB should be sacrosanct.

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canissum June 20 2008, 12:59:01 UTC
(sighs) If the research is correct, we're one step closer to designer people.

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t3knomanser June 20 2008, 13:06:10 UTC
I'm okay with designer people. I'm more than okay- I'm in favor of it.

The question is: who gets to do the design and why? Are we going to have hordes of parents who get the "Brittney Spears" treatment for their child that will produce a girl that looks like the idoru of the moment? Or the (less likely) "Gattaca Scenario" where genetic diseases are made crimes? And so on- like any other powerful technology, there are all sorts of potential pitfalls.

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canissum June 20 2008, 13:12:34 UTC
I say yes to both, in varying measures. And both of those kind of scare me.

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t3knomanser June 20 2008, 13:43:47 UTC
I think the latter is actually quite doubtful. But then again, people want to put the government in charge of healthcare, so, what do I know. Seriously: The government is detaining people indefinitely with a dubious legal classification and is torturing them or handing them over to less squeamish governments to be tortured. Hey! Let's put these people in charge of grandma's hip replacement!

Ahem, sorry.

At any rate, the former is fascinating, because it's the first time that the mind of a parent becomes truly inheritable. Oh, there's genetic markers that dictate some elements of how your brain is going to work, but there's a great deal of nurture involved too.

But genetic tinkering allows the values of a parent to be indelibly encoded into the genes of their offspring. That's awesome, in the classical sense of the word. From cosmetic changes to fundamental changes. From eradicating disease to snake-oil gene packages that promise your offspring will be able to sing and dance and shit cupcakes.

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