No one's forcing abortions

[synergy]

Some people who oppose abortions annoy me. Every once in a while someone spouts off that abortions are against freedom of religion. What? Come again? Are women being held down and forced to have abortions and I somehow didn't hear about it?? No, I don't think so. If Catholics or any other religious person is having an abortion, then maybe that

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[here_be_dragons]

Ditto gay marriage. I'm not happy with the Catholic church right now for many reasons (even more so the Mormons). One of my school friends is Catholic, and told me that she voted Yes on 8, because "marriage should be between one man and one woman." Okay, yeah. I get that they believe that, and I promise to never ever EVER force a Catholic to marry a person of their same gender. Now fuck off and leave the rest of us to live our lives without your stupid religious bullshit

[synergy]

I think the one problem I have with the protest is that I believe there's too much focusing on the Mormon Church. They did throw a lot of money at it, but they weren't the only ones. There's plenty of people who aren't religious and still believe it's freakish. There were also a lot of Christians who didn't support it. So I'm always a little cautious about painting everyone of a given group in these hot-button topics with the same brush. I guess I wouldn't say I'm just mad at Mormons, I'm mad at any closed-minded imposing person who voted for it.

[here_be_dragons]

Good point. And it's true that right now I'm mad at the Mormon Church (as opposed to being mad at every individual Mormon), and the same with the Catholic Church (although I am angry with the one individual Catholic I know who voted Yes). Along with all the other individuals who voted for it. Plus, some of the blaming of the black community that's been going around makes me really REALLY uncomfortable, too. So yeah, too much blame.

[synergy]

I understand that a lot of people are angry and I am too, but it's one of those things of humanity that people must find one group/clan/tribe/etc. to jump all over to blame for whatever they're angry or hurt about. It gives people an easy target to hurt instead of stopping to parse.

Being angry with the Roman Catholic Church and not all Roman Catholics or the Mormon Church instead of all Mormons (although it's my understanding that being Mormon is like being in the Mafia sometimes...) is a good way to put it.

[hedwig_snowy]

Religious freedom? Like transfering pedophile priests? Can I just say, FOAD to them. One inkling that their precious tax status would be taken away and they'd be praising the new administration's efforts to reduce over-population.

Still, at least they're consistent (publicly) anti-war, anti-abortion, anti-death penatly. Not many fundamentalists can say that...

And, when did we become a country where someone's religious freedoms can step on other's rights? This ain't the Vatican, it's a (up until Dubya) Constitutional Republic. There's no theocracy here...yet.

Catholics

[synergy]

"Still, at least they're consistent (publicly) anti-war, anti-abortion, anti-death penatly. Not many fundamentalists can say that..."

I always say that. They are consistent and therefore predictable. They don't change their minds (mostly/publically) whenever it's convenient.

[cscottd]

How dare anyone infringe on their right to infringe on everyone else's rights?!

Where did this bizarre idea come from that "religious freedom" means that you have the right to enforce your beliefs on others? that you're somehow being " persecuted", if someone refuses to conform to your religion's rules? and that someone merely expressing their own religion is somehow an attack on yours?