What the frak?-queer politics version!

Feb 17, 2009 23:20

AWP post will come when I'm off Friday and have time to devote to it. But hey, here's weird gay scandal stuff!
Assuming we all know of Ted Haggard, the former fundamentalist, homophobic, Christian pastor of the New Life Church who was exposed as a hypocrite by Mike Jones, an escort Haggard had done stuff with-sadly Haggard (after completing a 3 week ( Read more... )

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heftysums February 19 2009, 12:13:25 UTC
I was thinking the other day in regards to your "punk" novel (gently sidestepping All of the Above, lol): that you really should work on getting a firm grasp of what the musical climate was in the late 70s/ early 80s UK overall as well, to truly understand the punk scene. No scene is a vacuum, and despite their best protestations, I'm sure the Germs had heard ya know, Bee Gees, ABBA, Wings etc etc etc. All the "fluff" radio stuff. If there was a movie of your book, consider what songs would turn up in the soundtrack to truly encapsulate the era.

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swimpenguin February 19 2009, 12:35:32 UTC
Yup, I've been doing some of that (could always do more though)-even though right now it's centered on LA, I've been trying to get a view of the music that came before and after-Bowie, the radio hits you mention (thanks for actual band names to look into :)), disco!, the different punk that was going at the same time in the UK and NY, and across the US in little pockets, and then all the smorgashboard of different sounds in LA devolving into the overall hardcore sound of Black Flag, Circle Jerks, etc. etc. when the suburb kids "took over" the scene.
I'm working on trying to keep the scene/music references in the book-setting some scenarios at concerts-but not keep a death grip of 'this is a punk novel and nothing else!'-the main two characters starting off are male teen prostitutes and a Vietnamese female recent immigrant, so there's a larger picture there. Hopefully.

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heftysums February 19 2009, 14:19:00 UTC
What year is this set? (Sorry for misremembering the location, for some reason I was thinking UK.) BC the forum I post on has just recently taken on this massive undertaking of collecting every major song from a year into downloads for listening and study, and then voting them all against one another. It's a huge project, and right now we've only done 1973.
But for your interests, once we get closer to the late 70s scene, where disco 45s co-mingle with the punk 45s-- I think that will really dump you right into the musical climate. (1973 was enlightening, I knew tons of songs but just never realized it was the same time.)

But as for right now, have you checked out bands like New York Dolls, or the Stooges, or Alice Cooper? All major influences on the late 70s.

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swimpenguin February 19 2009, 16:59:38 UTC
Hmm, right now I think it might cover '77 or 78 to '80 or 82, it may change though. I do need to check out more New York Dolls and Stooges-within the scene I've mainly gone through early Bowie, early X, The Germs, The Weirdos, The Screamers, The Dils, early Black Flag, early Circle Jerks, Joy Division. I'm sure there are a million other bands I should look into for that time period.

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