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bery January 18 2006, 07:37:54 UTC
It reminds me of the old proof for declaring that 2+2=2 ... it has the same fatal flaw, you might say.

My own belief is that science and religion need to work together. It's like approaching the same problem from two different angles - eventually they'll meet in the middle.

'Intelligent Design' annoys me for that reason - it's not Religion trying to Cooperate with Science, it's Religion attempting to Co-opt Science and replace it altogether. In other words, a big pointless power-grab.

It's too late at night for me to string these paragraphs together into a rational thought, but I just wish that people would realize that all religious writings should be interpreted with the proper contemporaneous mindset. Even the recent ones (Islam and newer).

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blackphoenix524 January 18 2006, 13:32:08 UTC
That is the one of my most favourite questions around :) Who created god? Who created god's creator? And so on. It's a very nice paradox.
Will have a greater read of this at a later date.

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grimmybug January 19 2006, 04:49:13 UTC
it's difficult to reply to this without going on a massive rant myself, but to sum up one of the many many points i was intending on making, part of the miscommunication between science and (western) religion, is the definition of god. god is not a giant invisible man in a robe sporting a rather fluffy beard. that was a painting. i think every major religion would agree with me there. except perhaps Destiny.

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suzyd January 19 2006, 06:14:58 UTC
My personal belief is that god is the emergent behaviour of billions of people. As a group we create our individual fates, which may seem to be directed by something more intelligent than any of us.

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grimmybug January 19 2006, 20:38:04 UTC
i don't think it's about a more intelligent life form, that's a measure we use on ourselves.

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suzyd January 19 2006, 20:45:03 UTC
So what's your view on it? Just an archetype of parts of us, ways of behaving? Christians certainly seem to view God as a being of some kind. I would love to see more of them take the Bible metaphorically, not literally.

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