Provide Alternate Methods Of Creating & Modifying Friend Groups For Journals and Communities

[thelittlevoice]

Title
Provide Alternate Methods Of Creating & Modifying Friend Groups For Journals and Communities

Short, concise description of the idea
Provide alternate methods of creating and modifying friend groups for journals and communities by revamping the editgroups.bml page or allow additional commands in the admin console.

Full description of the idea

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[azurelunatic]

This suggestion may now hold the current record for fastest time from submission to posting!

[thelittlevoice]

Haha. I just saw the notification in my e-mail. Very quick.

Thanks for approving!

[azurelunatic]

It looks like this is the command family that would want expanding to include invite/modify (not add, goodness help us) and include group.

community [community] [action] [user] [group] add/remove

invite, modify, or remove a user from a community.

community
The username of the community.
action
Only 'remove' is supported right now.
user
The user you want to remove from the community.

group
the group you want to add the user to or remove from

community [community] list [user]
should return the groups that the user is in.

[azurelunatic]

I like.

[nostariel]

+1 billion omg

What brought this suggestion about...

[thelittlevoice]

And in case anyone was curious as to what stemmed this suggestion...

I help maintain a community that currently has 93,196 members. We really would like to use tags on the community and have the ability to give certain users tagging privileges.

But in order to assign privileges, you need to be able to set-up a group. And the only way to set-up a group is to visit the editgroups.bml page...a page which in order to load must list all 93,196 members first. As you can probably guess, the page won't even load because it is just too much information.

We're kind of stuck and I think the only things that could be done to fix it is to change the editgroups.bml page or make it so this stuff can be done at the admin console. If that can be fixed, it can help other users and communities that might have the issue of having many friends / members.

Re: What brought this suggestion about...

[azurelunatic]

(For the benefit of people not in support and not you) The thing where pages like that won't load is already in the bug tracking database.

[aveleh]

Provide alternate methods of modifying friend groups for journals and communities by revamping the editgroups.bml page or allow additional commands in the admin console.

I think this is especially important because the editgroups.bml page, as it stands, requires JavaScript to work. Which means that users who use alternative access methods (such as screen readers, voice command software, mobile devices, mouseless-input, etc) are often completely unable to use this page at all and are therefore unable to make use of any of the group options. (Unless there's another method of modifying these groups that I'm unaware of.)

[thelittlevoice]

Added this into the suggestion. Good point.

[azurelunatic]

Once a group is created, a regular user can add people to groups via the console. Not so for comms.

[aveleh]

Azz, I'm the one who pointed the console option out to you in IRC when you were talking about thelittlevoice's support request :D

But how does this regular user create that group in the first place? (Unless you're saying that because the suggestion says "modifying friend groups", that it doesn't include adding or deleting?)

And how does this user see what groups that friend is in, especially if said user doesn't have a paid account and said friend hasn't posted in two weeks? Note: "friend list aveleh" does not list which groups I'm in, but rather what users I've friended.

So, yes, I'm biased, but to me that page is an accessibility issue first :D