Banned Communities List

Feb 04, 2009 16:39


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Banned Communities List

Short, concise description of the idea
Enable users to see a list of communities from which they are banned.

Full description of the idea
Currently, there is no way to know if you've been banned from a specific community unless you try to post there and get the "Logged in user: username - you have been banned from ( Read more... )

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Comments 19

azurelunatic February 4 2009, 21:49:56 UTC
I'm ambivalent on the idea of having this available to list communities, but I would say that it should absolutely not be an option to list personal journals from which one is banned.

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charliemc February 4 2009, 21:52:16 UTC
Agreed about personal journals!

I don't know why not as far as communities, however. Before I ban, I always warn -- so people have the opportunity to communicate at that point...

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kittenspit February 5 2009, 01:26:29 UTC
While it seems like it should be a common thing, not all maintainers do this. I've been banned from communities just because I've gotten in arguments with a maintainer outside of the community, and didn't realize I was banned until I tried to post.

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thewhiteowl February 4 2009, 21:53:08 UTC
+1

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azurelunatic February 4 2009, 21:54:56 UTC
To solve the problem with accidental ban evasion, I would prefer a solution that linked to the policy on ban evasion when a user encounters that error over the ability to retrieve a list of banned communities. If someone is able to get a list of communities that they're banned from but doesn't know about the problem with ban evasion, they're perhaps more likely to accidentally commit it.

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kittenspit February 5 2009, 01:23:51 UTC
For example, I'm banned from a community under this account, but I don't realize it (many mods don't send out warnings). I create a new account for an unrelated reason, and join that community. I've just evaded a ban, but not intentionally. The maintainers of that community can report me to the LJ abuse team and have both accounts banned, even though I had no idea I was doing this.

I agree that it should only be for communities (and feeds, I hadn't thought of that). I didn't suggest that it should ever be available for journals-that's why I specified "communities" in the suggestion.

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lied_ohne_worte February 5 2009, 06:18:08 UTC
You can't be banned from feeds, no - they don't belong to anyone and have no maintainer.

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scien February 5 2009, 08:34:07 UTC
Has it ever actually happened that someone was banned for violating the LJ TOS and genuinely didn't even know they were accidentally evading a ban?

IMO you should only find out that you're banned from somewhere when you attempt to do something that the ban prevents you from doing. I ban people preemptively a lot, and that's because they're trolls or spammers who I've seen in unrelated places on LJ and I don't want within ten feet of a space I maintain. I don't want them to be able to check that I've done so, or they'll just open up another of their LJ accounts and harass me there.

I just can't see normally helpful and well intentioned users checking this for one account before they join communities with another account just in case the previous one was banned from it without their knowledge. If they really do have no idea that they might have been banned in advance, it won't occur to them to check.

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thewhiteowl February 6 2009, 21:49:37 UTC
+1

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conuly February 7 2009, 02:48:20 UTC
Agreed. How often do you get accidentally banned from things?

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azurelunatic February 7 2009, 02:52:42 UTC
Well, more often with the contextual hover menu, I imagine.

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azurelunatic January 10 2010, 12:16:45 UTC
I could possibly see having a notice in the navbar and on the community profile, when you are logged in to the account that is banned from a community, that you are banned from it (because viewing the community is an interaction), but I just can't think of a way that wouldn't cause more problems than it starts to inform someone that they've been banned from a community without them interacting with that community in some way.

If account linking were ever implemented, I would be all about a warning that one of your linked accounts (and which one) is banned from somewhere, upon your interacting with that account (before you actually interact), so that ban evasion would become a choice and not an accident, providing the accounts were linked.

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