Three-Strikes System for Bad Behavior

Mar 13, 2007 12:48

Re-posting this because the original submitter was deleting comments to the suggestion. (Apologies to anyone who lost their comments when the submitter deleted the original suggestion.)

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Three-Strikes System for Bad Behavior

Short, concise description of the ideaset up a panel of arbitrators, and a message-forum-style "report offensive post" ( Read more... )

abuse, § rejected

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rahaeli March 13 2007, 17:51:55 UTC
Heh. OP deleted my comment twice, and has now deleted the entry entirely. Thanks for the re-post.

For the record, my comment was:

No. No, no, no, no, no.

It's not an online service provider's responsibility to protect someone's feelings from being hurt. It's not an OSP's responsibility to make sure everyone's all touchy-feely nicey-nicey. If nothing else, the definition of "nice" is completely subjective from culture to culture and subculture to subculture. It's an OSP's responsibility to enforce the law and to give YOU the tools necessary to deal with non-lawbreaking harassment, such as banning users and deleting comments to your journals, and it's up to YOU to take the responsibility and the ownership for your own actions enough to recognize that the online world doesn't revolve around your hurt feelings and use them. (Generic "you" there, not speaking to the OP directly ( ... )

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adudeabides March 13 2007, 18:00:04 UTC
Thank you for proving her point. ;p

Well said. I don't think I have anything to add that you haven't pretty much covered in your comment. +1

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lied_ohne_worte March 13 2007, 18:07:07 UTC
Evil...

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scaryjeff March 13 2007, 18:01:49 UTC
+1

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rebelsheart March 13 2007, 17:54:09 UTC
(reposting original comment)
Moderation of a community is the responsibility of the community's maintainers and moderators. Moderation of a personal journal is the responsibility ofthe journal owner.

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sleepfighter March 13 2007, 17:59:37 UTC
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+1

I think this feature would get abused a lot, personally.

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zhonnika March 13 2007, 17:59:04 UTC
Users are expected to comply with the ToS.

Users are not expected to be nice to each other.

They aren't even expected to like each other.

Not everyone will, no matter where you go. Expecting that everyone will be polite and not trigger the psychological problems that people may have isn't really the best idea. Besides, it's all very subjective (even within a so-called arbitrator team); you might think someone is being rude, when all they are doing is disagreeing with you. That isn't rudeness, it's just an opinion. We all have them, and we're all entitled to them.

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qfemale March 13 2007, 17:59:18 UTC
Reposting the main-points of my comments:

I don't want to have to worry that somebody might misinterpret my comment each time I comment outside of my journal on something and report me. That's just too much.

Also, if we are in general worried that maintenance in respect to drama/abuse/rudeness of communities isn't good enough, here was my idea for it:

There could be a group that 'certifies' community handling (or a comm or what have you). Kind of like a badge that is given to comms where the maintainers really do take care of the drama/abuse/etc so users have yet another way to decide if they want to join a comm or not.

This might somehow improve community maintaining on some levels.

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Or just piss off a lot of folks.

I know I don't like to join comms where the maintainers aren't doing a good job. And more than once it has been a reason for me to leave.

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adudeabides March 13 2007, 18:02:56 UTC
A user-run, voluntary certification system is an interesting idea. I picture it as a BBB for community maintainers/moderators.

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qfemale March 13 2007, 18:07:31 UTC
Exactly, like the BBB! ;-p

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adudeabides March 13 2007, 18:31:01 UTC
That's a sizable task to tackle, certainly.

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sofiaviolet March 13 2007, 18:02:16 UTC
reposting for the record

If you can't take the drama, GTFO of the internet.

Okay, that was a little harsh. But, seriously. There is no way you can find a panel of 30 people that all of LiveJournal will agree upon to be neutral, and the kinds of things this panel would be addressing are very subjective. People will abuse it. It's more effort and more trouble and more drama than it could possibly be worth.

If a user needs some kind of safe space, it's up to the user him/herself to make it by controlling who can comment to their journal, see their entries, see their contact information, etc. It is not LJ's responsibility to protect us from the mean people on the internet.

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midnightmadness March 13 2007, 18:49:18 UTC
If you can't take the drama, GTFO of the internet.

Really, honestly, that's ALL that needs to be said. Holy gawd, if some of the kids of today had lived 25 years ago with their current oversensitivity and coddling attitudes, they'd have been utterly TOASTED by their peers. The Internets (and pretty much the whole world) is, at its core, really just a big huge bag of unkind raw realities and brutal people. I really feel sorry for the kids that can't take a little heat.

OMG - MEAN LJ comment! *cries-REPORT!* ...me=*barrelrollingseyes*

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