My first stupid.

Sep 16, 2006 22:51


I knew it would only be a matter of time before someone posted something about this that made my skin crawl, but I didn't realise it would be so fast. Over in livejournal_uk, irving decides to throw in his Catholic take on those gosh darned Muslims who are upset that the Pope said Prophet Muhammad had brought the world only "evil and inhuman" things, etc etc. I'm ( Read more... )

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yuxonomei September 16 2006, 22:13:08 UTC
I read that too and handwaved teh stupid. sir_guernica's post on this yesterday was far more interesting.

Irving makes me cri.

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ems September 16 2006, 22:15:33 UTC
In livejournal_uk? Yes, it was indeed, but this was some headdesk worthy stupid. Heh.

Your icon is hawesome, and I'm not even a Dr Who fan. Heh.

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thren0dy September 16 2006, 22:24:06 UTC

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ems September 16 2006, 22:27:12 UTC
Is that the charming guy who tells the mothers of dead soldiers that their children died because of TEH GAYS? He's a real winnar, that one.

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krazydiva September 17 2006, 00:05:26 UTC
Did you read the whole speech? If so, can you show me where he said all Muslims were "evil and inhuman" The quote was "Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached". I believe what he is saying is that violence and hatred is evil. Not only that, but they weren't even his origanl words, but somthing he is quoting from another source.
If I am wrong, and believe me, I have been many times, please prove it to me.

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ems September 17 2006, 00:10:43 UTC
::nods:: He certainly didn't say that about all Muslims, but he did say it about Muhammad. It would be equivalent, I guess, to saying Jesus had only brought evil into the world. So you're not wrong, you just misread. No harm, no foul. :)

The thing I don't egt is that God advocates violence hundreds of times in the Bible (admittedly, Jesus never does, but God certainly does) so I don't really see how Christians can denounce the violence in the Qu'ran without doing so for the Bible.

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ems September 18 2006, 17:50:57 UTC
Ahahahah. I lolled.

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krazydiva September 17 2006, 00:08:19 UTC
I humbly apoligize. I read your statement wrong. Please feel free to throw e-bricks at me and spit upon my face :(

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ems September 17 2006, 00:11:51 UTC
::laughs:: There was no e-bricks or spitting. :D

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petitfour September 17 2006, 00:10:55 UTC
newsflash - most of the islamic militants or otherwise disaffected muslims most at risk to react violently are the ones who in reality have no idea what it is that the pope actually said about islam, just that he was critiquing it from the point of view of the leader of another religion.

not saying that this is an excuse, or that we should censor ourselves. but a lot of these same people were the ones that flipped out over the danish cartoons because their only exposure to most news is their local religious leader, so we need to be mindful of it.

instead of you know, being an asshat and painting the entirety of a huge diverse religion with the wahabist brush.

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