And for some reason I felt obligated to finish it tonight, so now I'm up way too late again and I'm already all thrown off for this week and have missed stuff, this is just bad karma. I was doing so well. D: After this I'm done. I promise. I'll get back on track.
Ahem. The answers to the
shipping meme, all 7 pages in Word of them. I talk a lot.
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I do wish Word could copy and paste into Rich Text posting so I wouldn't have to format this by hand. Bloody Vista. )
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I'll comment properly later, but right now I'm typing up this fic that SOMEONE prompted me for but I can't for the life of me remember who it was, oh dearie. ^^
P.S. It makes me so happy that you called Pike "ridiculously good looking." I feel less weird and pervy, mebbe.
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[info]kayliemalinza (eventually) asked me about Star Trek: Reboot
Still bitter, I see.
+OTP: Kirk/McCoy! Plays right into all my buddy!slash weaknesses - they’re argumentative and frustrate each other but stick by one another and spend most of their time together, getting each other more than anybody else. They express affection in odd ways. They’re a pairing of a wilder, more out-there partner with a more grounded partner who’s unfazed by their weirdness.
Oh wowwwwww. Button/nose, thou art hit. Buddy!Slash is one of my favorite things-- it takes precedence over FoeYay, in fact-- and the particular archetypal pairing you describe is a big favorite, too (although it's even more fun when the supposedly normal partner has plenty of oddities himself. Did I ever make you watch Big Wolf on Campus?)
Also Kirk/Pike, because I simply can’t pass up a senior/subordinate father/son-with-complications relationship.*has similar thots ( ... )
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Only a tiny bit. :D
I don't think we got a chance to watch Big Wolf on Campus! I'll have to see if I can rent it, because everything you've told me about it makes it sound awesome. And almost every show, movie, book, etc that I latch onto has a dynamic like that in it somewhere - Monk and Stottlemeyer, Shawn and Gus, Grissom and Catherine, the Doctor and the Brigadier, Tony Stark and Rhodey, and so on. I don't know why I like it so much, but I love watching that kind of partnership or friendship even in a nonromantic context.
And buddy!slash is by far my favorite. There are some rival!ships and foeyay I like, but with ships like those I always get stuck wondering how one goes from hating someone to having sex with them, since the concept of hate!sex sort of eludes me. I can see subtext and attraction and UST in pairings like that, and I'll write about those, but if two characters are already really close friends it's a lot easier to give them that little push into a romantic relationship in fic.
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::nodnod:: Yes yes, buddy!slash is very reasonable. And with the archetypal duo we're discussing here, you still get the conflict/tension, frustration and occasional desire for revenge that I find attractive in FoeYay.
Infantilization is squicky, and also calling someone "Daddy" when, you know, they re one. There's a lot of Kirk/McCoy daddy!kink floating around that I always scroll past because McCoy has a daughter (at least in book canon and in my personal canon) and he's Southern, so she'll call him Daddy forever. I'm sure other readers and people with this kink IRL can differentiate and compartmentalize, but I can't ( ... )
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It wasn't even the fandom I asked about, but I completely agree about the greatness of Nick/Warrick and the inexplicable popularity of Nick/Greg. On my more cynical days, I suspect that the latter is more popular because Greg is white. *sigh*
I know they were explicitly set up as father/daughter
I can see how the show was trying for that, but that's not how their dynamic reads to me at all. For one thing, they're not that far apart in age--I don't think he could be more than ten years older than her and probably less. And considering we see a romance between the Middleman and Lacey, who if anything reads as younger than Wendy, the age difference clearly isn't in itself an impediment. Plus, the way they relate is just . . . sibling-y, not father/daughter-y. I don't ship them at all, but I don't see the parental thing.
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On my more cynical days, I suspect that the latter is more popular because Greg is white.I think that even when I'm not feeling particularly cynical. There's very little fic for Warrick in general, and even less shipping him with anyone. Possibly Greg's also more conventionally attractive (part of which, sadly, is being white), but I'm really not sure what "conventionally attractive" even is anymore so I can't make that statement with any certainty ( ... )
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I think Warrick's gorgeous and Greg is only cute. But I don't know if my tastes are conventional anymore either. For instance, I think both the guys on Supernatural are fugly.
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(I waver on the Supernatural boys myself - I find the actors attractive in that outtake where one of them is air-guitaring to "Eye of the Tiger", but actors goofing off is a weakness of mine - but for some reason I find whoever plays Castiel adorable. Though I think that has less to do with him and more with his shocked and bewildered expressions in the promos that have been circulating round LJ.)
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Gibbs/Abby is beyond adorable. We've only finished season 4 over here - which means the fandom in my country is going to be on the brink of hysteria for AGES because NCIS:LA's Kensi is played by a very popular Portuguese actress and we're still two seasons away from getting to see her in action.
I never got into Nick/Greg either. I mean, I've always got their closeness (and I got stronger vibes off it than of Nick/Warrick, I've got to admit, even though I keep on rewatching Unfriendly Skies for the joy of seeing them play husband and wife :P) but I've always seen it more as a brotherly kind of thing. Sara/Greg was my big ship back in the day, as I loved to see that he was always able to put a smile on her face no matter how stressed out she'd be - plus his puppy-crush on her was adorable ( ... )
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Daniela Ruah? I have to admit the NCIS: LA crossover didn't really grab me, but I did like Kensi when she was onscreen. Also I think there are *cough* other means of acquiring the NCIS: LA episodes if you wanted to see them...
I definitely think Nick and Greg are close friends, but they're dynamic doesn't read shippy to me, and tbh I see a lot more intimacy and reliance in moments of need between Nick and Warrick - Warrick's the first person Nick sees when the dirt comes off his coffin; Nick is the one to confront Warrick when he starts to self-destruct no matter how awfully-written that scene was grrrr. The character closest to Greg that way is probably Sara; I feel like Nick's more of a big brother, in that Greg will confide in him but there's not as much reciprocity from Nick (and not out of any malice on Nick's part, more because big brothers don't tend to rely on their little brothers that way ( ... )
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Of course there are, but that won't stop Portuguese media to inundate me with newspaper and magazine articles all saying "WHEN OH WHEN CAN WE FINALLY GET TO SEE OUR DANIELA IN ACTION????" *grins* Like I said, she's a pretty popular actress over here - in fact, back when she was a frizzly-haired teenager, she was my mental image for Hermione.
There's this distance to their relationship that makes it hard for me to buy them as a ship, and I don't think you have to love someone romantically to be worried about them when they get a nail through their eye (since "Nailed" tends to crop up a lot in shippy post-eps).
Exactly. It's perfectly normal to be worried about something as serious as getting a nail through one's eye happening without it meaning there's a romantic interest. And yes, I still see Speed's ghostly presence looming between Eric and Ryan, no matter how close they now are.
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Including when it's literally there! I did squee a bit when Eric hallucinated Speed, partly because despite never latching onto him the way I did Ryan I was glad to see Speed back, but partly because it was like a big sign from the producers saying "Yes, shipping this is absolutely right and proper". Hee.
Oh, I'm not saying there's nothing mockable about it, but whenever I talk about it I feel like I have to make sure everyone knows that I *know* it's a bit silly and like it anyway, rather than not being aware of the silliness. And hey, people write awesome fic for far sillier canons that Miami, so I don't know why I feel that way, but I do. *shrug*
Also, omg your icon. I really did laugh out loud. :D
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Oooooh.
Kirk could maybe have a minor role as McCoy's love interest
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Can Pike be there, too? I mean, someone has to keep all those geniuses in line, right? Kirk sure ain't gonna do it.
drive-by stranger comment!
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iwillnotbepervyiwillnotbepervyiwillnotbepervy
Also, Scotty needs a captain to sign all those important requisition orders. Not to mention that Pike can keep Kirk busy when he's not important to the plot.
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