Comments | stunt_muppet: I suppose I should post about this, then, shouldn't I.

stunt_muppet

I suppose I should post about this, then, shouldn't I.

Oct 29, 2008 22:02

Not like you could avoid it if you were on the internet at all today, but I suppose I should spoiler-cut it nonetheless.

( That There Doctor Who Spoiler What Everyone's On About... )

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Comments 13

elyssadc October 30 2008, 03:28:38 UTC

I agree with your thoughts about the Second Doctor 10000000%. Especially the part about Jamie. He never would have left the Doctor and the Doctor never would have let him go. AND DIDN'T says my own personal canon.

But back to the Second Doctor. His love of adventure and general joy are what will always make him my favorite incarnation. The only other Doctor that comes close is Eight. Yeah, there is all the time war shit, but Eight had a hell of a long run and for so much of it he is so full of joy. Thinking of just the audio canon (I'm not a huge fan of the EDAs) right up until the divergent universe stuff, he has a HELL of a lot of the Second Doctor's attitude in him.

I can't even deal with the rest of what you said, though. Not right now. I started reading it and got too upset. I don't think I'll ever get over what the time lords did to Two.

stunt_muppet October 30 2008, 20:26:04 UTC

AND DIDN'T says my own personal canon.

SEASON 6B. I cling to it. Sometimes I just repeat the phrase, apropos of nothing in particular, and I feel better about the world.

Thinking of just the audio canon (I'm not a huge fan of the EDAs) right up until the divergent universe stuff, he has a HELL of a lot of the Second Doctor's attitude in him.

I suspected that audio!Eight might have been the more cheerful of the two, if only because book!Eight goes through so much crap that it amazes me he's not completely out of his mind. Or maybe he is, I'm not sure. This is why I keep hesitating on the post-TV canon, you see.

jcgenzie_and_co October 30 2008, 03:39:46 UTC

I am so cold. So so so cold. I forgot how cold and drafty Belk is... I should have remembered how cold I was when I was in Belk Sophomore year... I even went to the docotor thinking something was wrong with me because I couldn't seem to get warm (well there was something wrong with me, but that's beside the point).

stunt_muppet October 30 2008, 20:29:23 UTC

ME TOO. Only I swear it wasn't this cold last year. It can't have been. I don't remember being cold all the time, especially not this relatively early in the year.

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stunt_muppet October 30 2008, 20:56:43 UTC

I like to think of it as his living an entire "life," so to speak, from the zeal of youth to decay, decline, death.

Good point; I hadn't thought of it that way. It does raise the question of whether Two would have gone through the same process were he around longer, since even disregarding real-life timelines Four's probably the longest-lived of all of them, with the possible exception of Seven or Eight.

I can't quite think of Four's as a whole life, though, since a part of his youthful enthusiasm seems to be such an overt, conscious effort to not be who he used to be (like avoiding UNIT, or even Earth as a whole). It doesn't seem to me like he's really starting from the beginning. He's trying to, but he isn't quite managing it. Or something. Um. You know, the minute I hit "post", I'll think of a way to explain exactly what I mean, but it's not coming to me right now.

Tenth Planet's still one of my favorite episodes, and probably my third-favorite Cyberman story after Invasion and Tomb of the Cybermen, so I look forward to hearing ( ... )

airie_fairy October 30 2008, 04:12:51 UTC

"On the other hand, he's had a four-year run - he'll have a five-year run by the time he bows out ( ... )

airie_fairy October 30 2008, 04:15:52 UTC

I think the carryover from Five to Six is Five finally blowing over from all the self-repressing and...uh, giving into the fiery raging desire to throttle people.

biichan October 30 2008, 05:20:29 UTC

Seriously. And Seven's Machiavellian tactics are a reaction to being manipulated and fucked-over as Six. Trial of a Time Lord would leave ANYONE with control issues.

And then Eight's, well, flightiness is a reaction to the stress of being Machiavellian Seven.

stunt_muppet October 30 2008, 21:24:07 UTC

That makes perfect sense, actually. XD

Perhaps that'll be my assignment for the remainder of the gap year, though - watching me some Six and Seven. I've seen more Seven than before, but Six remains a great unknown and that's wrong.

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biichan October 30 2008, 05:22:02 UTC

You're totally right about Two and Jamie and the Doctor's overall character arc. (And I've got my prompt for the Cliche Ficathon, so you might want to check for yours.)

stunt_muppet October 30 2008, 21:35:01 UTC

Season 6B, man. Sometimes I just repeat that phrase to myself when I'm watching Two. I feel better remembering that Jamie doesn't have to leave.

And I've got my prompt for the Cliche Ficathon, so you might want to check for yours.

Beh, I'm not surprised, since AOL's decided recently that it doesn't like me anymore. *wanders off*