TVD 2.12, "The Descent"

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So I started this on Friday and then forgot about it and then went back to it last night in between stuff and typed a little more tonight.  ...the night before the next episode.  Yeah, I don't know.  It's possibly a little more negative than how I actually feel about the episode, but I had some major issues with it.  I'm conflicted

Comments

[meiou_set]

The "putting Elena in mortal danger" plot was constructed in a way that made characters look kind of stupid.

ARE YOU IN MY HEAD WHAT IS THIS

It made me sad! I'm a little baffled as to why Lauren Cohan's characters seem to get a bunch of characterization in the episode that they die in.

good observation. I mean I know I liked Bela and thought maybe she was better developed, but now that you say this I wonder if I'm not giving her character the benefit of hingsight...then again the history of abuse and darkness of Bela I thought was better communicated than Rose's anguish at losing Trevor. There was a lot of talk about Trevor, but not a lot of show imo.

But remember that time that Julie Plec stated that Anna was created with the specific purpose of being killed and causing Jeremy and Damon pain, so they could grow as characters?

Wow. I uh, I wish I didn't know that. *goes to her room, shuts the door, weeps and throws things*

lolarious on Katherine'sEverything should be lolarious for Katherine. The writers totally messed

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I'm not sure how clearly Bela's issues were set up from the start, but I found her engaging from the first time I saw her on screen. Yay, ripping off Winchesters. There was that moment in the ghost ship episode that showed she'd killed a family member, and the look on her face indicated that she had good reason? And the explanation of her past fit into that pretty well. But I only watched the show intermittently, so I don't really know.

...yeah, I wish I didn't know that about Anna too. It actually makes me wtf more than that stuff about Damon erasing Elena's memories being a noble gesture. YEAH.

I tend to read Katherine as having not a conscience, but regrets and the occassional moment of empathy, if that makes sense? Maybe slightly more conscience than say, Darla, but not much. (Darla is my forever vampire. And forever evil ex. Yes.)

But as always that might be asking for cohesion and forethought, the show hasn't shown much of either.This show demonstrated forethought last season. At least I think it did. WRITERS

[meiou_set]

Yay, ripping off Winchesters

Haha, I loved how she shot Sam. What does it say about him that he had a thing for her? Oh, SPN you sure bring on the lolz.

[silviakundera]

I'm not sure that Stefan-Elena-Damon actually counts as a love triangle
That's my read of it too -- I honestly don't consider it a ~triangle, because as you said Elena isn't really choosing & Stefan actually likes them getting along and being able to trust Damon to help. Plus, I never get the vibe that Damon's trying to, like, take Elena from Stefan. Even when he's all full of FEELINGS, it always seems to be more about how he wants to be with Elena, instead about her not being with Stefan. I'm not saying he's consciously thinking: threesome. But... I never feel like his fantasy future is Stefan all saaaaad and alone while Damon & Elena run away together. Because getting over Katherine and falling for Elena meant he was getting over the mind-fuckery that's tainting his relationship with Stefan. Even before he made the speech in "Rose" about how 'my brother deserves you and you should be with him blah blah'. He was all despondent in Plan B when he fucked up and Elena & Stefan had their weeping breakup. DAMON THINKS THAT ELENA & STEFAN

[vega_of_lyre]

Wow I agree with you on...pretty much everything. Seriously there was a huge gap in time between Rose going off the deep end and anyone coming to help out. What was Damon doing all day?! I somewhat suspect he went off to talk to Katherine. (She's old and could know things? but now I'm just filling in plot-holes from the writing...)

And this was the first episode where I really liked Rose. I didn't mind her before, but we didn't really know that much about her till...she dies. A little exasperating.

Um...saw some of your prompts in the women of tvd comment fic-a-thon and they were awesome, mind if I friend you?

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Friend away! I could always use more TVD people.