Feminist anger

Jun 02, 2010 15:03

"We would gladly have listened to her (they said) if only she had spoken like a lady. But they are liars, and the truth is not in them." - Joanna Russ, in The Female Man, 1986 ( Read more... )

efa, feminism, fandom

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cassiphone June 2 2010, 07:51:13 UTC
Cheers, for this, Dave. Much appreciated.

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girliejones June 2 2010, 08:54:28 UTC
Ditto.

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alias_sqbr June 2 2010, 08:03:20 UTC
Thankyou. And yes, exactly. I am by nature a non-confrontational passive sort of person, and what happens is people smile and nod and think I'm nice...and completely ignore my complaints. Or they listen, but nobody else notices the discussion so I have to go through it all again later. Grr. So I have every respect for those speaking up in a more outspoken and confrontational way (and not just about gender)

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accy June 2 2010, 08:12:10 UTC
Nice. I like what Phillip K Dick said. Re: the EFA thing, my first skim look at the controversy (not the marketing campaign which I have failed to see), made me thing it was some kind of "your mum" joke that they were riffing off.

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angriest June 2 2010, 10:32:23 UTC
That is a brilliant quote by Dick.

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transcendancing June 2 2010, 14:09:21 UTC
Well said. Good luck with EFA stuff. Awesome quote by Phillip K. Dick.

I'm glad that you're aware, and that you care. I'm glad that you're in a position to speak and be heard where so many of us women are not right now re the EFA stuff. I may hate that your words are more powerful than mine in this context, but I am also grateful - particularly if it results in some sort of change for the better. Certainly I can only help. And provide support as needed if it would be helpful.

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alaimacerc June 4 2010, 00:00:13 UTC
Haven't read any more on this than your post, but am already getting strong "racefail do-over" vibes. You might need to save me a large-sized belt of that Talisker. (Shouldn't your length marks go the other way, while you're drinking that, btw?)

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strangedave June 4 2010, 01:58:57 UTC
I think this one won't be racefail, we've had this particular argument before (and will again). No big names seem inclined to jump in and comment. It's a teacup storm.

Yes, I inadvertently used the length marks for the Irish pronounciation not the Scottish. Then again, I'm fairly sure I couldn't reliably tell the difference when spoken either, being a clueless foreigner.

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