A bitchin' observation...

Mar 15, 2010 23:54

So I've been thinking about the word 'bitch'. Y'know, as you do ( Read more... )

oz, angel, thinking them deep thoughts

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jumpthesnark March 16 2010, 08:04:56 UTC
I always thought it was because even a woman who is too strong/too aggressive (for a woman) is not as strong as the weakest of men? Idk. xD

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swear_jar March 16 2010, 08:44:03 UTC
That was kind of how I thought of it, too, actually. *Seconds*.

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strangecreature March 16 2010, 13:53:07 UTC
Nooooo! Boo-hiss, I dislike this explanation. :-\

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strangecreature March 16 2010, 13:52:28 UTC
Well, that's depressing!

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chlare March 16 2010, 13:44:23 UTC
Yeah, I'd say it has to do with what you said re: the reclaiming of it - that is certainly a modern thing - but also societal norms still say a man has to be more than a woman, so to be lowered to the status of bitch is all emasculating, *jazz hands* taking away what that man is...so...there's no point for them to try and reclaim it; if they were a 'real' man they would be naturally strong and aggressive. There'd be no need to say it in the way that Cordy does since they should already be that way, where as Cordy is kind of 'elevating' herself to a male aggressor position. ...Lameness all around if you were to look at it that way.

Okay, didn't mean to blather that much. :) I'll be moving along now. Stupid packing.

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strangecreature March 16 2010, 13:58:25 UTC
Aw!! But I want people to talk! *g* S'kinda the point!

(And I really like your thoughts here... That makes sense, albeit kind of depressing sense, in that moving away from the feminine is always the empowering move. Hmm.)

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kita0610 March 16 2010, 17:05:07 UTC
Because being called anything considered traditionaly associated with women is an insult, silly.

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strangecreature March 16 2010, 18:23:44 UTC
That makes me sadface, but I'll concur on the when-directed-at-men side (In the Oz example, 'bitch' immediately gets one-upped by 'you cunt' in the same exchange, which is arguably even more of a feminine insult and the reason I didn't quote that dialogue in its entirety *g*). But what's with the newly-minted positive connotations for women? Is it an attitude of "Yes, I agree, I'm a woman, and I'll kick your ass at it" or more like "Yes, I agree, I'm stronger than 'feminine' women"?

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kita0610 March 16 2010, 19:26:13 UTC
The last is an interesting distinction! I always equate bitch when 'reclaimed' with a feminine kind of power of the Buffy type, rather than an attempt to distance onesself from other women. Ymmv.

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