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Dec 01, 2010 19:10

i don't expect much out of japanese game series novels. when you've got a big universe with lots of place to expand and explain, it's pretty normal to want to fill in some of the stuff that gets left out of the main game. sometimes these can give us insight to the characters we didn't have before, different outlooks on certain in-game events, or ( Read more... )

fandom shit, tales of vesperia

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notmakingout December 2 2010, 01:23:33 UTC
Yeah I just sort of... skimmed most of the stuff about the war because it wasn't making much sense and I was like LOL OKAY FINE EVERYONE DIES. Maybe we're missing something in the summary. I assume Alexei sent them to Temza as part of his ridiculous blastia/apatheia research adventures, though. Honestly I think that had a lot to do with the war on the Entelexeia to start with, although that's not exactly clear. And it's possible some of the upper ranks (potentially Canary, even?) knew a little more of what was going on but weren't telling people because lol Alexei? It's not clear to me how much the Alexei/Canary was like Alexei/Schwann in the manipulative aspects so IDK.

Duke does make pretty much no sense though.

...I swear I added Entelexeia to my firefox spellcheck. :? ...Oh there, I was missing an e.

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exelia December 2 2010, 13:17:22 UTC
I found it strange that Canary and Damuron both die toward the beach away from Mt Temza in the novel, when in the game, he states they both died at Mt Temza itself... not on some beach nearby XD

Most of it might not make too much sense from the summarizing, but yeah, plotholes ahoy!

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stigmatize December 2 2010, 20:54:11 UTC
i found it a little strange that they both died like ... two days after being in the 'war', mostly. like wow that was a badly planned excursion there.

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midgetnazgul December 2 2010, 16:33:47 UTC
I, too, was confused with the incongruity with game canon. I was always under the impression that what happened at Temza was a MASSIVE, official battle of the war with far, far more than just 1000 Imperial troops.

And what was up with "Damuron" and "Canary"'s non-relationship? I mean, the whole Raven-Yeager-Casey sidestory is vague, but definitely gives the impression that there was a LOT more to Rae and Casey's relationship than this novel chooses to give them.

Also, I don't dig the fact that the Alexei isn't already bat-shit-banaynays when he revives Raven. Nobody short of a tyrannical nutjob would revive the dead with forbidden technology, imho.

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stigmatize December 2 2010, 20:57:15 UTC
SEE i always imagined Alexei as being high-up, but not the commandant yet in the war? and then all that fighting happened and he got promoted but all the war atrocities had turned him a little bit bonkers, thus setting the stage for his massive trolling in the game.

i guess now he's just always been batshit? i guess?

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midgetnazgul December 3 2010, 03:16:26 UTC
No, that's the way I saw it, too. Alexei already being bat-shit doesn't make any sense - who would keep a Captain around who's clearly...

Oh wait. Cumore. That puts a rather large hole in my argument, but I'll stick to it.

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stigmatize December 3 2010, 03:20:03 UTC
WELL cumore was only a captain and got in through pure nepotism by his social status, iirc. alexei started out fairly low in the ranks and climbed them over time and was known as a young bright eyed idealist so ... what happened? PLOT HOLES FOR EVERYONE

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crackjaw December 2 2010, 17:10:06 UTC
My vitriol for this novel is immense so I'm glad you posted something about it so I won't have to annoy my exasperated f-list with it

oh hell I might do it anyway, this novel is terrible

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stigmatize December 2 2010, 21:02:42 UTC
I WAS A LITTLE EMBARRASSED DOING THIS TBH like is this too nerdy ... do i have a problem ...

but then i had an excuse to shop a gin bottle into a picture of alexei and i stopped caring

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crackjaw December 2 2010, 21:31:35 UTC
if you have a problem I have a worse one;;;;;; I have spent so much energy that this game probably does not deserve trying to make its backstory make sense it's not even funny (I am serious)

I think part of my annoyance is not just that it contradicts my headcanon (which seems somewhat similar to your headcanon) but that it's so inconsistent that like...idk that all the extra canon simply doesn't fit together in any coherent way kind of makes me embarrassed to like this game as much as I do :(

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stigmatize December 2 2010, 21:40:46 UTC
sob YEAH i love love love this game so much ... but then when i start to deeply think on plot and world related things i just go 'oh god namco what are you even doing'. like do you guys even know what an empire is? CHAIN OF COMMAND how does that work?? space cthulhu tentacle monster i will go pretend i don't know about the second half of this plot now.

i think my main problem with the novel is that it uses a bunch of pre-established canon events but ... does them in an order that make no fucking sense in a timeline? aughhhh vesperia why do i love you

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stigmatize December 2 2010, 21:01:53 UTC
okay. except this entire review is basically about the events that take place, and how they don't make any sense regarding the pre-established game canon.

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stigmatize December 2 2010, 21:33:18 UTC
did you even read the last part of this? or the novel summary? how does The Great War lasting about two weeks against a force that could ONLY be sensibly present after another ... Great War make any sense? Or line up with game canon?

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