*Auspex blinks, somewhat confused herself* Neither of you would tell me, when he first arrived. I never really did understand how it could harm him. *she sounds self-chiding, now* It doesn't matter now, besides... but I found it baffling at the time.
*she seems rather wistful* Mine is recovering, now, at least... but I miss the sense of life it once had. Primus's touch has grown cold in the ruins; they are anguished... especially so, where temples have been destroyed. Hopefully, the rebuilding will restore that fullness of power.
Though, your home Cybertron probably was not left untouched by the battles, either. *she winces regretfully*
Showpieces? *she echos the word, considering that for a moment* Hopefully they were adaptable enough, should something happen to their creators..?
*Auspex frowns* I think I should not comment on that -- it will only cause you to become defensive of him. I will say, that I am afraid... that your creator thought much like a Decepticon from the beginning. *she shows a tiny hint of a smile
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Common enough, yes. I dealt in a number of different businesses and thus ran into a number of different opponents. Added to that was the necessity of paying off the city bosses and making sure the authorities looked the other way if I stepped over the line.
It wasn't easy. Thrust later compared it to a war of its own, kill or be killed, perfect your strategy and take down your opponent.
*She's been fighting the temptation for a long time (very shortly after she first met him, to be exact), but now she gives in: she puts her face in her hands*
Windtunnel. Why do you bother with facades? I can see through them. None of us are perfect, and I can understand that. Living as Primus would have you live, while in a corrupt society, is difficult. But, it does not give you license to offend Primus. None of this matters anymore, it has happened... but you still act this way; you still justify your errors. You've been to the Allspark: what did it say to your spark?
It said...that in the end, one's actions don't really matter in the scheme of things. If one person lives or dies, that is of no consequence. In the Allspark, all things are united and peaceful.
That is what I learned, priestess. That Primus guides us if we choose to listen, but we still have our own destinies in our hands.
*she lifts her head to look at him, perching it on her hands* You can say that one's actions don't matter in life, when you have progeny that was sent away because of what he did in life? *she blinks at him with bright, incredulous optics*
That...hardly counts. *he clenches his jaw for a moment, optics brightening* He worked against Primus and allied himself with Unicron, he did the one thing that was inexcusable.
*she nods solemnly* That angered the Allspark and grieved Primus more than anything else could... but every decision we make that harms another child of Primus is just that much more grief and frustration that he bears.
There are times we all do so without intention, as we are finite beings... but it hurts me terribly when I grieve him, because I know what he feels. And to purposefully do something that I know causes him pain... *she shakes her head* I don't wish to insult you, but I find wealth far too trivial to be worth that.
*she sighs gently* Primus is forgiving, and he knows we cannot process the scope that he has. The Allspark has seen actions and attitudes that span the spectrum, from grace to depravity, and the extremes balance each other, fortunately.
I am only saying that you don't seem to understand that Primus does not wish to see his children harmed, especially by others of his children, and it disappoints him. He has forgiven you these things; I merely do not wish to see them repeated, now that you have access to the physical world again.
I'm not in business anymore, I have no need for assassinations. Thrust, on the other hand, is a tactician and a soldier. He is prepared to kill whoever needs to die, and is actually rather enthusiastic about the notion of killing his consort's other lover.
*The idea almost makes her cringe, if only for knowledge of future events, assuming his dimension's events unfold as its parallels did. She puts that thought out of her head before it progresses very far; it is fruitless to imagine 'what if's*
That is a good example. Thrust does not act on his desire to kill Starscream, out of deference to Dreadmoon. Likewise, one should refrain from performing violence on another Cybertronian, out of deference to Primus. Granted, there would not be the chance of Primus arranging a messy death for you in retaliation, but it still causes him unecessary pain.
That's not much of a way to conduct a war, is it? Thrust defends his consort, his city of choice, and his personal interests. That sometimes requires the deaths of the enemy.
Exactly. *she smiles wanly, perhaps a little wistfully*
Primus does wish for us to preserve ourselves, if we are attacked. It is a warrior's task to defend oneself... but preferably without causing death, if the opponent is Cybertronian.
That is the ideal. No, it is not always practical, in civil war. But the self-control of staying one's hand is important; it has saved the lives of and/or grievous bodily harm to Dreadmoon's mates -- both of them -- and it has done the same for many of our people, in the war. If you are attacked, defend, otherwise, refrain.
*she seems rather wistful* Mine is recovering, now, at least... but I miss the sense of life it once had. Primus's touch has grown cold in the ruins; they are anguished... especially so, where temples have been destroyed. Hopefully, the rebuilding will restore that fullness of power.
Though, your home Cybertron probably was not left untouched by the battles, either. *she winces regretfully*
Showpieces? *she echos the word, considering that for a moment* Hopefully they were adaptable enough, should something happen to their creators..?
*Auspex frowns* I think I should not comment on that -- it will only cause you to become defensive of him. I will say, that I am afraid... that your creator thought much like a Decepticon from the beginning. *she shows a tiny hint of a smile ( ... )
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It wasn't easy. Thrust later compared it to a war of its own, kill or be killed, perfect your strategy and take down your opponent.
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Windtunnel. Why do you bother with facades? I can see through them. None of us are perfect, and I can understand that. Living as Primus would have you live, while in a corrupt society, is difficult. But, it does not give you license to offend Primus. None of this matters anymore, it has happened... but you still act this way; you still justify your errors. You've been to the Allspark: what did it say to your spark?
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It said...that in the end, one's actions don't really matter in the scheme of things. If one person lives or dies, that is of no consequence. In the Allspark, all things are united and peaceful.
That is what I learned, priestess. That Primus guides us if we choose to listen, but we still have our own destinies in our hands.
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There are times we all do so without intention, as we are finite beings... but it hurts me terribly when I grieve him, because I know what he feels. And to purposefully do something that I know causes him pain... *she shakes her head* I don't wish to insult you, but I find wealth far too trivial to be worth that.
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*he seems a bit less composed and genteel now*
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I am only saying that you don't seem to understand that Primus does not wish to see his children harmed, especially by others of his children, and it disappoints him. He has forgiven you these things; I merely do not wish to see them repeated, now that you have access to the physical world again.
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Is this wrong too?
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That is a good example. Thrust does not act on his desire to kill Starscream, out of deference to Dreadmoon. Likewise, one should refrain from performing violence on another Cybertronian, out of deference to Primus. Granted, there would not be the chance of Primus arranging a messy death for you in retaliation, but it still causes him unecessary pain.
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That's not much of a way to conduct a war, is it? Thrust defends his consort, his city of choice, and his personal interests. That sometimes requires the deaths of the enemy.
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Exactly. *she smiles wanly, perhaps a little wistfully*
Primus does wish for us to preserve ourselves, if we are attacked. It is a warrior's task to defend oneself... but preferably without causing death, if the opponent is Cybertronian.
That is the ideal. No, it is not always practical, in civil war. But the self-control of staying one's hand is important; it has saved the lives of and/or grievous bodily harm to Dreadmoon's mates -- both of them -- and it has done the same for many of our people, in the war. If you are attacked, defend, otherwise, refrain.
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