Underskirt and Italian Camicia

Mar 30, 2012 15:07

I finished the heavy gold satin peau underskirt, finally.

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blue and gold florentine gown, 16th century italian renaissance, venetian costume, bethany

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virginiadear March 30 2012, 22:35:18 UTC
H'mm.... It seems to me that even if historical precision isn't a requirement or an objective, you could do worse than follow a historical method of making a camicia:
http://realmofvenus.renaissanceitaly.net/library/camiciahowto.htm

(I don't recall whether I've already seen your plans for the neckline for this gown, mi dipiace! I've assumed it's square; if that's incorrect, please do forgive me.)

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starlightmasque March 30 2012, 23:08:26 UTC
I have made Bella's camicia before, and it's lovely. But, it is very full, and the sleeves are very full and very long. They should be, of course, but for this particular project I don't want any additional bulk under the costume, especially in the sleeves. What I have in mind is pretty much the same idea, only with far less fabric and a gently rounded very wide neckline. (If you make a thin binding on the square camicia neckline, it ends up roundish anyway-- it only stays a square if you have a wider binding or facing of some kind.) I am thinking to make an Elizabethan smock/Italian Camicia hybrid-- essentially the smock with a camicia neckline. Sounds funny, yes? But, very comfortable for my SIL.

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virginiadear March 31 2012, 06:02:39 UTC
Oh---sorry!
I'd been thinking of the geometric cut and squared neckline, and the fact that the camicia instructions at Bella's site are for a Venetian camicia of the sixteenth century, and that her cutting layout could be adapted to give you a closer-fitting camicia while retaining an historical appearance (at least from the observer's viewpoint, i.e., outside the dress under which the camicia is being worn.)

Mostly I "do" or "play" Sixteenth century, but have in the past used similar geometric cuts to produce "sherts" and "smocks" and tunics or dresses from earlier centuries, most of which were a lot less voluminous through the sleeves and torso.

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starlightmasque March 31 2012, 06:25:50 UTC
Your are right that I want a closer fitting camicia while retaining an historical appearance!

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newgarb March 31 2012, 01:27:40 UTC
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Orazio_Gentileschi.jpg

Same neckline, narrower sleeve that tapers to the lower arm/wrist.

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starlightmasque March 31 2012, 06:02:28 UTC
*sighing from the beauty of this painting* I have always loved this image! Thanks!

I'm thinking I will end up with a very lightly gathered camicia (less fabric width for less bulk, keeping with the proper design) and plain wrist length sleeves. It will work out one way or another! No one is going to see it anyway.

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starlightmasque March 31 2012, 06:05:28 UTC
Thank you! The fabric is really really nice quality, despite it not being silk. It's very thick and has a nice crisp hand and soft drape. It was really nice to work with and didn't give me a lick of trouble. I think I bought it at Mill End years and years ago, I can't even remember why I bought it in the first place!

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dollhausfrau March 31 2012, 16:44:51 UTC
Lovely skirt fabric. This is coming together beautifully, can't wait to see more!

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dollhausfrau March 31 2012, 16:45:19 UTC
Oops, this is bauhausfrau writing from my doll LJ. :)

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starlightmasque March 31 2012, 18:11:50 UTC
oh, ha ha! Thanks! Your dolls are really cool!

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operafantomet March 31 2012, 18:11:37 UTC
LOVING that underskirt. Drool.

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starlightmasque March 31 2012, 22:38:18 UTC
Thanks, Anea! Not much of it is going to show under the gown, but it will help support the skirts and look good when flashes of it show!

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