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Nov 07, 2011 07:54

I don't know how many of you who read this are Catholic. I'd wager none. But it doesn't matter because this is kind of neat anyway. Roman Catholic churches say the same Mass everywhere on the same day. This means if you went to the Catholic church in Spain or in Mexico or in Texas or in Italy, you'd be hearing the same readings, listening to ( Read more... )

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kelj99 November 7 2011, 14:07:39 UTC
Totally not Catholic but I have always liked the Catholic Mass. I enjoy attending with Catholic friends when I'm invited. The Latin bits give it a sense of *veryold* that makes you feel like you are in touch with people since the first Mass.

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wumbawoman November 7 2011, 15:32:45 UTC
You lost that wager. :)

I actually knew that and have been going to, I guess you would call them "classes". My church is offering a series called "the biblical walk through mass" to better explain the various components of Mass.

Also, it's not just the prayers that are going to change. Some of the wording in the responses to be the priest will be changing. For example, when the priest says, "The Lord be with you", we will no longer reply with "And also with you." We will now be saying, "And with your spirit"

The priest at my church is from Uganda and he was telling us at Mass once that these are not new changes. That the non-English speaking countries have been saying Mass this way since Vatican 2. It just took the English speaking countries 40+ years to come into alignment with the others. ;)

Of course this is also the priest who told this joke at the end of the 10/30 mass:
Question: How are dentures and Vampires alike?
Answer: Because they both come out at night.

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stakingaclaim November 7 2011, 15:44:26 UTC
My church has been doing that too, but I haven't been able to go. And yeah, I didn't think there were revisions to any other languages, at least not that I'd heard. But it's still a big deal to change the stuff people have been saying for 20 or 30 or 40 years, even if it's only English speakers. I can imagine the first few masses are going to be filled with lots of people stumbling along. I have been to churches where they might alter the response for Prayers of the Faithful to something like "Lord, in your mercy, hear our prayer," for the Christmas season or Easter, and it's amazing how many people will fall back on the default even when they've just been asked to say something else.

Have you learned anything really interesting from the classes? I saw the changes for the Gloria. Are any of the rosary prayers changing as well? Our Father? Apostle's Creed?

Priests tell the corniest jokes, don't then? I think I've only heard cornier jokes from my mother.

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wumbawoman November 8 2011, 02:08:42 UTC
The Act of Confiteor changed. Instead of saying, "That I have sinned" it's now, "That I have greatly sinned". And instead of striking your heart/chest three times, you now say "through my fault" three times with the third time being most serious by saying, "through my most grevious fault". I'm tempted to say that there are changes to some of the prayers in the rosary but I can't remember right now. The only change that I know of in the Apostle's Creed is that instead of saying, "We believe" it's now,"I believe" which is funny because that's how its been said at the churches around here for some time ( ... )

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morlockkid November 8 2011, 00:24:14 UTC
Catholic here. Heard about the changes and I'm just sad that the changes are not very eloquent. They do a mass in Spanish at my church so that should be interesting as well.

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oddharmonic November 9 2011, 01:08:16 UTC
I have copies of the pamphlets on the changes to the Mass and Missal I can summarize for you if you want.

I was raised Catholic but believe my reproductive choices and sexual identity are not anyone else's business, so I am not a member of the church. I do, however, assist with catechism classes because the particular parish where I help has challenges with volunteer recruitment and the religious ed director knows I'll work for the occasional free meal.

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