Revenge of Revenge of the Sith

Jun 01, 2005 03:01

It's even better the second time around.

Spoilery musings on second viewing )

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xemoxvaderxnox June 1 2005, 08:16:13 UTC
No, I find your lack of pants disturbing.

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sjester June 1 2005, 08:54:08 UTC
I guess I can deal, really, because I like my absolutes absolute, and I like my ambiguities ambiguous.

"Only the Sith deal in absolutes."

Sorry, couldn't resist.

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spiderchris June 1 2005, 09:01:03 UTC
Yes. Yes, yes, yes, yes, YES.

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jeeperstseepers June 1 2005, 11:50:55 UTC
So jealous you've gotten to see it again. I need to do that.

Both their lightsabers are blue.
I know! It gave me such an "Oooo sad!" moment.

But I really need to watch the original trilogy again now, because how does the moral ambiguity of the Jedi and Sith of the prequels work with the absolute good vs. evil battle of the originals?

I may have missed something in Episode III, but were the Sith really trying to bring about peace? I thought Palpatine was just being a bit fat liar to get Anakin to take those first steps over to the Dark Side. Even if that's the case, you're right that both sides are more morally ambiguous than they struck me watching the originals before seeing Episode III. But I think that's one more cool element of this film; it will add this whole other layer to the originals without shattering them. I think it will be interesting watching the originals now knowing that the Jedi weren't like this pure order of monks. And, of course, how can anyone ever see Vader the same way ( ... )

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adelynne June 1 2005, 14:39:08 UTC
I may have missed something in Episode III, but were the Sith really trying to bring about peace?

Yes, in their own, very special, very screwed up way. Palpatine's whole grand design was to arise at the top of the heap in controlling a vast, galactic empire without the bickering and squables that so plagued the Senate. It's a scheme that took over 13 years to come to fruition, and I totally respect the Emperor for it. He's a bastard, but he's a bastard with careful planning skills and patience.

After watching the RotS, my boyfriend rented the originals, and we watched them together. There is so much more subtext one gets, from Owen and Beru's conversation about how Luke is so like his father, to Obi-Wan's pining for the days of the Republic. The dialogue is still horrendous, though.

I missed the 80's of America, as I was on the other side of the world at the time, so Star Wars was never a massive thing for me either. *Shrug*

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spectralbovine June 1 2005, 16:00:10 UTC
And, of course, how can anyone ever see Vader the same way?

vandalisimo totally agrees.

My earliest memories of seeing SW weren't till junior high or high school at this slumber party with a friend of mine who was a huge fan. I don't know if I'd seen it before then, and I don't know if I was spoiled for the Vader momet. But it's one of those things that sticks with you, you know, because it's just so damn unique.

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spectralbovine June 1 2005, 16:02:54 UTC
I may be talking out of my ass with the fighting style because I may have made that conclusion after deciding that's the conclusion that should be made, but I don't think it's a huge coincidence. I'd have to take a look at the other battles to see how the combatants' fighting styles varied, but really, if you look at Anakin vs. Obi-Wan, it's seriously like they're just fighting mirror images of themselves.

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the_partyman June 1 2005, 16:20:48 UTC
I think my favourite part of that duel is when they both do that same multiple twirly move, then try the same attack, their lightsabers meet, and then hands push at each other at precisely the same moment... just before they send each other flyting backwards across the room.

Great stuff.

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