... in which there's birds and snakes and aeroplanes

[soupytwist]

OK, so apparently reading Salem's Lot when a sodding EARTHQUAKE hits means that your first thought will be "Oh shit, it's the apocalypse!"

... luckily the mood is then broken by the other people in your house yelling "what the fuck was that?!" and "it's a fucking earthquake again!" :) Otherwise, I think this metaquote pretty much sums it up, ahah

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[newsbot3]

did i spam this about enough yet ? :p

[soupytwist]

Hahahah that is awesome. Also, true. (I very nearly turned my computer back on to LJ with "OMFG WHAT", but then went to sleep instead. :) )

[therealjae]

I think this Idealistic Pragmatist post

That's a link to a blog, not a post. Just saying. :-)

-J

[therealjae]

Also? I need to take issue with the notion of "Nader giving the world President McCain." That smacks of Democratic Party entitlement (these are OUR VOTES! that he is STEALING!), and that's not just distasteful, but I also suspect that it doesn't reflect any sort of reality (can you prove that these Nader voters would be voting for the Dems if they could? I don't think so...).

-J

[soupytwist]

I certainly don't think that all the Nader voters would vote Democrat - I don't think they necessarily should, either. But I do think there's probably enough overlap between 'people who would vote Nader if given a chance' and 'people who would, in the absence of Nader, vote Democrat as being better than the Republicans, albeit not significantly so from their point of view' that it could, potentially, make a difference. Not necessarily in straight votes, even - maybe in press coverage, or time spent talking about it in progressive blogs that could otherwise have been spent coming up with strategies. I just think he's a distracting influence who has no chance of succeeding at any of the things he says he wants to do if he continues his current practices, and that actually the way he's currently going about things could end up backfiring and making things worse for people who agree with those very same goals.

Which, you're right, isn't the same as making any election win for the Republicans his fault, and I should probably have phrased

[soupytwist]

Heh, edited, sorry!

[concernedlily]

That Colorado thing is a *headdesk*.

I'm interested in your last paragraph because it's settled now I'm coming home properly at Easter (so there can be visitage at some point in the next couple of months? Maybe? *g*) and a part of it is that they'll be having elections in April and it's really pointed up to me how strange and unpleasant it is to be in a country where I have no political voice. Not that I'm massively active at home but I vote, I know who my MP is and how to get in touch with him, I know who the councillors are, and it's weird and not very nice to not feel that here.

[soupytwist]

YOU ARE BACK AT EASTER OMFG YES VISITAGE!!!!!!

*calms down*

Yeah, feeling that cut off from the political system is not fun. I had similar feelings in Canada - stuff would be happening and important and affecting me and the people I was with, but even when I knew who to write to they would never have listened to me, because I couldn't vote for them. I've never had that 'my opinions are completely irrelevant to everybody in power here' feeling somewhere I could vote, but I imagine it's not much better if the reason is 'my opinions are so far out of the mainstream as to be impossible to implement' rather than 'I have no vote'.

*smish smish smish*

[tangleofthorns]

Our politicians and our electorate both suck, can I come live with you?

[scoobygang63]

On the Lincolnshire not London thing- you could feel it in London, apparently. One of my local friends did. I didn't, because my building is apparently very sold (I wanted to feel it, damnit!) but I'm just saying, that's not such an inaccuracy. I think it was almost the whole country that felt the earth wibble!