Should We Move? Part II | The Poll

[somarium_lords]

WE ARE HAVING A REPOLL.

Due to a lot of concerns about this poll as well as our own, we are closing this poll and starting a fresh new one. It should make a lot more players comfortable all around. Votes from this poll will be used only as a comparison by us and will not be counted. Please see the new post for details. You may still discuss here!

Comments

SOMETHING ABOUT THE JOURNALS ON DW AND INVITE CODES

[spectaculaire]

I should have brought this up earlier, but better late than never I suppose. First of all, I'm not voting. As mods we decided it would be fairer if we didn't.

Secondly, I love my journals. It's why Somarium was journal based to begin with because I like personalizing and using my journals. Otherwise I feel like I'm wasting it even if I'm posting in communities. Plus, I somehow organize better and manage better with my journal f-list than watching communities through my f-list (I don't know why either, it's a mystery).

However, one of the reasons why I really would not mind Somarium switching to community base other than for the reasons already mentioned (easier maintenance, no need for friend adding, can be used in multiple games, etc.) is because of how adding journals works on DW. It's different than on LJ. In LJ you just need to add the journal with the "friend add" or hover click and you're done.

Not so on Dreamwidth. If you want to just be able to read a journal's public entries, you only need to subscribe. However, if you

[spectaculaire]

You could! But even though that sounds simple, immediately I see the issue of "complication" that general players may find as well as possible confusion. "We already have the hurdle of journal maintenance overall, and now there's two lists?" is a thought that immediately popped into my head. In the long run, it would be easier to have it all in one step rather than separated even if the majority do not f-lock their entries. Again, it sounds simple but by appearance...It's not a great a reason, but it doesn't take too much for a player to feel like there's a lot of work involved even if there really isn't.

But that's just my personal opinion. If everyone else didn't mind such a split then I wouldn't either. I'm just looking at what newer potential applicants might think from the offset.

...This is why most of my comments will sound like it's for the switch, but that's not necessarily true. Honestly I don't mind either way! Just throwing out possible different perspectives.

[spectaculaire]

..Also by "You" I meant "We". Because why would you do that when it's us that keeps up with the lists. Sorry about that, Yuli, especially if that came out wrong.

...Fail self is fail.

[failssassin]

'ANOTHER NOTE! People have been assuming we would not be using the journals for the Voicemail posts. That is incorrect-like all other comm based games that have similar voicemail/inbox systems, we would still want such posts in the journals. This is actually fairly common, so it would not be unusual in the slightest.'

If I understand the friending process correctly on DW, wouldn't people have to 'subscribe' to the character's journals to be able to see and post to their voicemail post? If so, it's kinda of a moot point not to stay a journal-based comm, since we would have to add everyone anyway.

[spectaculaire]

Subscribing is similar to the "Watch" function for communities. It basically allows you to "watch" a person's journal entries from your F-list. However, you still have access to a journal's public entries whether you are granted subscription/access privilege or not-just like how it is in LJ.

So in the end, you really would not need to do anything to see and post to a Voicemail post unless for some reason it is F-locked.

Sorry if that wasn't clear in my original comment!

[failssassin]

Ok, thanks for the clarification.

[soulsymmetrical]

No problem!

[seekingbody]

I may just be asking stupid questions, but is it just the same admin panel friend add/friend remove system (or in this case I guess friend subscribe or friend grant or whatever?) just like at LJ...?

[spectaculaire]

No question is stupid in my book!

It's the same admin console with just a different url: but it looks the same

There's a page of command references here but the ones we'd be mostly interested would be the "Manage Circle" ones, which is DW's lingo for "Friend add". Those commands are:

manage_circle add_read USERNAME
manage_circle add_access USERNAME

"add_read" is for subscribing only, "add_access" grants access only.

del_red and del_access would be the remove commands.

[seekingbody]

ah, okay. Thanks! So, we'd just be able to just grant access and subscribe as per normal to everyone?

[spectaculaire]

That's correct.

Basically it's like LJ's "friend add USERNAME" just split in two.

Subscribing is for you to follow a journal, but without access to seeing f-locked entries. Kind of like what I said above to Nue, this is like watching a community.

Granting access is for you to allow others to see all of your entries. So this is basically like being mutual friends here on LJ, but you don't have access to the other person's LJ. You're the only one allowing access for others, so it's a one way kind of thing.

[seekingbody]

Thank you, thank you! ♥ Just wanted it clarified, since the whole friend add thing is really confusing still haha

[spectaculaire]

Oh no man, I know! When I first looked at it I was like "....Say what now?"

It took a while, but I actually do understand why it's set up like that and it makes a lot of sense once you understand. But otherwise, I'm just like "Why!?"