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Apr 12, 2004 22:02

As I sit here studying for my exams this week, I can't help but think; if I had only been forced to go to high school another year, I would have began studying for my exams earlier ( Read more... )

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mattbremner13 April 13 2004, 02:17:01 UTC
THat's not true at all, I put in no effort towards anything this year, I barely worked and my marks are crazy high.

However, staying another year of high school may have helped other aspects of my life.

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social_aversion April 13 2004, 03:05:59 UTC
Well, first and foremost, I should point out that my post was sarcastic. But in response to your two points...

1. Your marks are not high because of your skill or intelligence; they are high because there were minimal expectations placed on you. I don't know whether this is a reflection of Trent as a school or of the way your first year programs were designed. Minimal effort earns you a fail at most schools.

2. I agree, staying at high school may have helped other aspects of your life (and mine), but I'm not really convinced. I think missing a year of high school is a great scapegoat for our own problems. That's like saying that my childhood was fucked up because I was born a month premature.

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baron_1_hornets April 13 2004, 03:06:20 UTC
I'm gonna have to go ahead and agree with Matt on this one. We were talking to one of the teachers at our school that we respect the most, and he said that university is not about the effort at all, and it makes sense. University is where you're supposed to study what you want to study, so it's all really about making the right choices, which is why some people switch out of courses so much, or drop out of university all together. They aren't as interested in what they're taking as they thought they would be. Follow that down the line and eventually it leads to effort, but nobody's gonna put effort into something they're not interested in, so making the right choices is the biggest thing.

-Brad

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social_aversion April 13 2004, 03:10:34 UTC
That teacher offered one opinion. You are welcome to forge your own after trying university for a year. In the meantime, I would caution you against generalizing what "you're supposed to" do at university until you try it yourself.

And secondly, university is about something different to everyone. I have friends that only care about marks; those people are going to put in a lot of effort. For someone like myself, it was about life experience, and therefore, I didn't put in much effort, because, as you say, "nobody's gonna put effort into something they're not interested in."

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tedhead April 13 2004, 02:52:57 UTC
Effort applies to high school too, not just Universities. It applies to most things in life actually...
like I could be doing my math homework right now instead of reading journals. I would then understand the Math we are studying and would be able to do well on the quiz my teacher will spring on us tomorrow morning.

However, if I do lousy on that quiz, I will be perceived as less intelligent than other people who do better on it, when really it's because my effort isn't as high as other people's.

That's a peeve of mine... people's ways of measuring intelligence. Normally they have it all wrong... I hate it when you don't know something that another person knows which is obvious to them, so when you don't know they act like you are the stupidest thing ever to walk the earth.

Sorry... just venting a bit.

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social_aversion April 13 2004, 03:07:50 UTC
Evidently.

Think of it like baseball; you may hit hard, but seldom, or you may have a poor swing, but hit often. In other words, there are many forms of intelligence, and effort, I believe, is one of them.

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social_aversion April 13 2004, 03:40:32 UTC
Thank you.

And yes, I agree with you.

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astroteen April 13 2004, 04:12:36 UTC
if i were forced to go to high school for another year i would have severed the veins in my wrists.

university is for fucking shmucks. not really. i'm taking a year off. eat my defecation, nipissing university.

i'm not happy with the choices i made.
luckily i have new ones i can make that i will like better.

XXXHARDCOREXXX

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The Choices We Make rayrramasra April 14 2004, 23:29:45 UTC
I'm going to go ahead and say it's because you go to Trent (for a myriad of reasons, one of them obviously being because I like putting down Trent. I mean...it's Trent.). Probably a combination of things, including your choice of program, as well as your school, and the way they choose to assign grades to things, and Brent said earlier ( ... )

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