When fandoms become something more, again

Jun 24, 2012 16:53

I would have to be thankful for this tumblr simply for it enlightening me as to the existence of this picture of Key.

But it gets even better.

Grey discussed the nature of the same-sex shipping tendencies of fandom a little less than a year ago.
Here, Trevor Link does the same, and even concerning the same Lesbiansubtextinkpop tumblr, in Read more... )

*meta, member: jessica, *fandom, group: f(x)

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greywing June 25 2012, 01:22:01 UTC
Just want to say:

- I still like hanging out with other lesbian fans (and sometimes being a terrible, objectifying hound dog with said other fans. Women. They'll drive you crazy).

- My invitation to talk and hang out and chat fandoms is still (and hopefully always) open.

- I'm still being my homo self over in my own journal, even if I've waned with the drooling over SNSD. (Sorry, SNSD! When you give me an MV like this, maybe we can renogotiate!)

- I'm always looking for lesbian fandom recommendations!

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arbitrary_greay June 25 2012, 03:13:12 UTC
Which room are you using, and what are your usual available times? That's the main problem. (I almost set up an "opportune hang-out times" spreadsheet a while back, lol, but right now my schedule is unpredictable.)

Yuru Yuri was pretty funny (with a couple huge laugh moments) once it found its rhythm, but otherwise not that extraordinary in execution. If you like that kind of cute fluff slice-of-life show a la Azumanga, you'll enjoy it. Its cultural implications are pretty fascinating, though, as I wrote above.

I linked this on G+ a while back. Unfortunately, it's ended, and it's short, but it's still a good watch.

Have you drooled over Johanssen's Black Widow yet? Fuck she was amazingly written in the movie.

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greywing June 25 2012, 03:34:01 UTC
I am not using any room on IRC. I would say 90% of the time I am online, I can also be found on GTalk (my personal account). Of course, I can always be reached through LJ (either through comments on any of my posts, replies to my comments, or through PM). If anyone would like to be in the chatroom, then times would need to be arranged ( ... )

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just_keep_on June 26 2012, 07:44:18 UTC
re: Black Widow: I agree that the movie was pretty mindless and didn't have much motivation. Apparently you can't make a blockbuster with depth?

Related, I found this quote by Charlize Theron fascinating:

“It’s so bizarre to me because, I work with a lot of men and then I do these press tours with them and nobody ever looks at Chris Hemsworth and goes, ‘Wow, you play such a strong guy in Thor!’ Nobody does that, you know what I mean? But when we are conflicted and we play characters that find themselves in circumstances where we have to to find our strength or just something in order to survive, like all of a sudden we are such strong women.”

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thecray June 25 2012, 08:04:15 UTC
Oh wow, thanks for the link to that Occupied Territories post. Shipping, specifically girl/girl, in KPop fandom has always been a topic I find very fascinating; so it's nice to read others' perspectives on it.

Yuru Yuri didn't impress me much in the beginning. I found it somewhat boring and only watched it because Kyoko made me laugh. Before writing this comment I actually thought I didn't finish it until I went and checked my MyAnimeList. I guess it didn't make an impression (or I just have a terrible memory) XD

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arbitrary_greay June 25 2012, 15:07:04 UTC
Donate your own perspective! I want to hear it! We (at this comm) previously discussed shipping, as well. Unfortunately, my OP for the "Why ship?" post was pretty shallow, but there's more than enough analysis in the "Idol fanfiction" posts. The comments are really good in the "Popularity politics" post, too.

Yeah, the cultural implications of YuruYuri are more grand than the show itself, which is complete fluff. But it did elicit some out-loud laughing from me, so it's more successful at comedy than most of the light-hearted anime I've watched in the past year.

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just_keep_on June 26 2012, 07:40:59 UTC
Man, when am I ever going to sleep. Gonna have to read that when I actually have more than two brain cells working DX But I wanted to ask about your initial thoughts on "moe vs. kawaii vs. aegyo" 8D?

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arbitrary_greay June 26 2012, 16:10:54 UTC
Moe = attractiveness that elicits a sympathetic/protective affection, similar to a reaction to cute, but not necessarily to cuteness
Kawaii = cute, adorable
Aegyo = cutesy

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just_keep_on June 26 2012, 21:20:09 UTC
Would you say there's a difference between "kawaii" and "aegyo"? I feel like there is, but can't really describe it...

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arbitrary_greay June 26 2012, 22:00:56 UTC
Kawaii is cute, while aegyo is cutesy. As I've said in previous threads concerning Sunny, aegyo in Kpop has always been not only intentional, but manipulative in nature, all about acting cutesy to get someone to do shit for you. Aegyo is not an adjective, as kawaii is. AFAIK, Koreans don't squeal "aegyooooo!" in reaction to something cute the way the Japanese go "kawaiiiii!" and translations are always "show aegyo," so my perception is that aegyo is a noun referring to the act of acting cutesy, and TvTropes puts it nicely here. So kawaii is being cute, and aegyo is acting cute.

And moe is completely vaguer than both. XD

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