The Hunger Games (movie)

Jan 12, 2013 11:34

Finally got around to seeing this after having read the first two books over a year ago.

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brutti_ma_buoni January 12 2013, 20:16:31 UTC
I have few thoughts about the film apart from a similar pleased 'yes, they didn't mess that up'. I did think they kept the Peeta thing at least obviously not cute-teen-romance, even if the full level of conflict wasn't clear.

(I don't remember the Seneca convos either, but he doesn't survive long after, so it seemed like a fair extrapolation.)

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snickfic January 12 2013, 20:19:18 UTC
a similar pleased 'yes, they didn't mess that up'

Yep, pretty much. Which, honestly, I think is a pretty impressive achievement, given all that's going on in the book!

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hamsterwoman January 12 2013, 20:52:18 UTC
I don't recall these threatening conversations between Snow and gamesmaster Seneca Crane. Possibly I just forgot. Or perhaps they're events that we somehow catch wind of off-screen?

Yeah, and add, I think/extrapolation of off-screen events that Katniss could have had no knowledge of in the books. Which I thought worked pretty well to explain both the Gamemakers waffling on the "both tributes from the district can live" to "nope, you still have to kill each other" and Crane's subsequent execution. In general, I thought one thing the movie added to the story was showing the Gamemakers outside of Katniss's POV, which made them seem more human, which made the whole thing a lot creepier for me.

But completely agreed on the point of the Katniss/Peeta romance. It was definitely harder to get the artificiality across than in the book, but I do think they could've done more to show it.

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snickfic January 17 2013, 23:51:36 UTC
Honestly, I was fine with the Gamemaker waffling we saw in the book - it looked like premeditated malice to me. But it was also interesting to see Crane; I have no complaints about it being added.

I thought one thing the movie added to the story was showing the Gamemakers outside of Katniss's POV, which made them seem more human, which made the whole thing a lot creepier for me.

Agreed. The scenes in the game room, where Crane is directing people, were particularly surreal.

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eilowyn January 12 2013, 23:10:10 UTC
essentially we are the television audience Katniss and Peeta playing to

That's actually a really good point. You don't see how calculated the whole thing is, at least on Katniss' part, probably because that would be such a difficult thing to convey.

And yes, everyone did a stellar job. Woody Harrelson was the big surprise, but I really liked Lenny Kravitz as Cinna (and I got some Katniss/Cinna feels that are probably wrong of me).

The third book is going to be either very hard to do or very easy, depending on whether they want to keep it in Katniss' perspective or not.

Really curious about movie 2.

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snickfic January 17 2013, 23:54:46 UTC
I feel like the events of book 2 could make a much better movie than they did a book. It will help not to be limited to Katniss's POV (which, after all, this movie didn't stick to either).

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kwritten January 13 2013, 00:10:10 UTC
Partly this failure is a problem of medium - the book is written from Katniss's POV, but in the movie, essentially we are the television audience Katniss and Peeta playing to, so we don't have much more insight into Katniss's moment-by-moment thoughts than anyone else does. However, I'm convinced that more could have been done to make it clear during the games how conflicted Katniss's feelings are. As it was, it all ended up feeling less emotionally complicated than I would have liked.

I personally felt this was the fault of the director/production and not the medium. I was anticipating the film to do quite a bit more with what we know about Reality TV and play up that angle - show us when the cameras are there, when Katniss knows the cameras are important, and give us even more of that layering. (Joss did an excellent job doing this with his directed episode of Glee and my fangirl heart that's the style I was expecting) ... I think in the right hands, the form is actually perfect for this aspect - it just wasn't handled in a way ( ... )

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snickfic January 18 2013, 03:41:53 UTC
I think in the right hands, the form is actually perfect for this aspect - it just wasn't handled in a way that took advantage of form.

Fair point. I do think something very meta could have been done with this material. However, the script was nowhere near clever enough for that, and didn't really seem to be trying anyway.

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ever_neutral January 13 2013, 01:27:05 UTC
Yeah, I found the Katniss/Peeta in the film unfortunately pretty underwhelming, which is a shame since their not-romance is one of the most interesting things to me in the first book. (I also felt like the watering down of the relationship on screen was kind of inevitable. :\) I'm hoping Catching Fire will be a better movie all round. (Not that this one was terrible so much as uneven.)

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snickfic January 19 2013, 18:40:39 UTC
Yeah. I mean, I was never invested in their relationship as romance, even in the books, but I found the deliberate artificiality of it very interesting. Here, there was very little of that. :P

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