#1173 Question my morals; they question me

[snellios]

If someone said and could prove that they'd seen the future, and all your progressive thinking was wrong;

• abortion led to social decay and the slippery slope to infanticide and involuntary euthanasia
• gay marriage destroyed families and made kids depressed
• banning guns and removing the death penalty led to soaring crime levels
• banning all nukes and

Comments

[nolongeratheist]

Well, its an impossible scenario isn't it? Even after the fact we could never prove it.

I already dont care for two of the opinions, one i wouldn't change regardless of the outcome, and one i would change if i knew that it directly caused the outcome.

The definition of progressive changes doesn't necessarily choose these things anyway regardless of the consequences but someone else said it better than me!

[snellios]

impossible scenarios are pretty much what govern philosophical thought, when people talk about "possible worlds" etc. & progressive is a catch all term for reform and change, these were just the most popular progressive issues right now, but w/e.

[nolongeratheist]

I feel compelled to disagree with both points... to take the second one first, most popular progressive issues according to who and for where? To take one point, guns and the death penalty are already banned in many countries, and I wasn't aware there was any serious intent to ban guns in the US, let alone canada, so I can't figure out where that one would be relavent to. On a different note, is gay marriage still an issue when you can have 'seperate but equal' treatment, or not? To me it reads as meant to be american 'progressive' issues but there's a few twists that make that seem unlikely... tho i'm not sure why i'm quibbling over this definition other than that I dislike the idea that you're branding people as being conservative (in fact "far right") for not agreeing with the opnions in the first place

[snellios]

when it comes to "far right", I think you're just quibbling semantics, which i dont really want to get into. But you're right perhaps far right isn't necessarily a correct term, but perhaps under my definition of right it would be, i'm not sure. That would require a further definition on my part which is getting OT so i dont want to go there.

The nature of knowledge and philosophy of mind all frequently utilize possible worlds/scenarios when it comes to really. If you exclude neuroscientific methods from philosophy of mind, I'd say a large proportion of the questions use possible scenarios as evidence... Indeed, possible worlds are not a necessity but they are useful when it comes to the really tricky questions. And Hume doesn't come to that astounding conclusions to me, so idk about giving him that much credit.

[daliahellyes]

thanks for the mindfuck