Random way after the fact thought DW 4.12-4.12 and regeneration

Jul 16, 2008 18:24

A lot of people have things that have been bugging them about the finale ( But here's what's been bugging me, that seems out of character )

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skipthedemon July 17 2008, 00:05:58 UTC
Was I the only one that thought the Doctor chose not to regenerate in Alt!Runaway Bride-without Donna? It came off as at least passive suicide to me.

Whereas this scene didn't, and was just weird.

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ariastar July 16 2008, 23:56:12 UTC
I was deeply weirded out by that too, not least because the screen explanation was -- and I can't look this up for an exact quote, so bear with the paraphrase -- "Besides, I like this body. Look at me. *smug adjusting of collar*" And it's certainly a bit in keeping with the way Rusty usually writes Ten as a bit of an arrogant berk, or at least like he has the natural Doctor arrogance and so many people have tried to snog him that he's decided he must be a bit of a looker by human standards. Which still doesn't really explain it, because he usually gets a bit uncomfortable when people express attraction (Sort of "oh, seriously? again? blimey") I dunno ( ... )

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skipthedemon July 17 2008, 00:04:19 UTC
I actually go with the theory that each new body at least gives him something new to equip him to Deal with Stuff. Eh.

Yeah, I dunno why Rose was all OH NOES, you can't change! Except maybe, like me, she thought Time Lords couldn't regenerate after extermination. I swear I got that from somewhere.

I don't mind comments longer than posts!

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_medley_ July 17 2008, 00:11:27 UTC
I admit, when I watched it, my main thought was, oh, this is how they're gonna stall on the thirteen regenerations thing for a bit.

But! I can usually think of things that satisfy me as explanations afterward. I have two. One, maybe Time Lords are like the Centauri on B5, and they kind of have a feel for when the regeneration's coming. Maybe this didn't feel like the time.

Or, alternatively, he didn't want to risk being out cold in the middle of this thing (like he was for Christmas Invasion) if he could avoid it, and since he had the means to keep the regeneration from finishing, he did.

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skipthedemon July 17 2008, 00:51:56 UTC
:nods: Acceptable explanations. It could be a combination of my explanation and those.

I have no idea how they are going to deal with the thirteen regenerations thing, but I maintain however they get around it, it should be something done to/for the Doctor. But some sort of get out of jail free card he creates for himself.

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_medley_ July 17 2008, 01:04:59 UTC
I do like your idea about it being part of Ten's arc, and difficulty dealing with change.

it should be something done to/for the Doctor. But some sort of get out of jail free card he creates for himself.

*reads* I think there's a "not" missing from that somewhere. Are you saying, not something done to or for him, but something he does for himself?

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skipthedemon July 17 2008, 01:09:13 UTC
But *not* some sort of thing he creates for himself. Which is part of what really weirded me out but work around in the JE.

Someday, I will figure out why I drop "not"s from sentences. It's a thing.

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fan_eunice July 17 2008, 00:32:16 UTC
Ten's problem is he doesn't know how to bend and flex and deal with change, he just lets it crush him. And now he needs to re-learn that. I dunno.

I'm going with this, 'cause otherwise it really doesn't make much sense. And it sort of fits with him starting to learn how to let go without shutting down, which I think has been a big part of his journey as this regeneration, and one he hasn't finished yet. Maybe?

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flo_nelja July 17 2008, 18:57:49 UTC
For me, it was just because this way he could avoid the regeneration sickness. He had a lot to do, after all.

Whether it counts as a regeneration or not, I don't know.

My very personal opinion :
- The authors certainly won't miss an occasion to have three more Doctors, do it doesn't count. They will find some technobabble to justify it.
- If it was known on Gallifrey, a lot of people would have wandered with a strand of hair or any bit of genetic code constantly with them. So I suppose they don't know.
- In this view, the Doctor has still three lives, but thinks he has two. So, when he will regenerate Twelve -> Thirteen, he will think he dies for good
- That explains the Valeyard very well. ^^;;

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