you forget that the Nazi's did not directly threten america, just our interests. I am not saying the NAZIs are right, just wanted to point out that they said war solved problems as well.
I didn't forget that, you just don't know my family history. The Nazi's killed my maternal grandmother's entire family (husband, father, brother, sister) and destroyed their farms while she was at work, except for her mother and her newborn baby (Oma fled into the woods with the baby and met up with the town butcher who she later married). Had Maria not been at work, she would've been killed. She later met and married my grandfather, Alex, and moved to the States with her two children Bosko and Ljiljana(my mother), not finding out her mother and first daughter were still alive til 8 years later. Alex joined the army immediately and fought against the Nazi's, being put in concentration camp and escaping with others several times. Papa came home, he and Maria had six more kids, blah blah. Had America not gotten involved, both Maria and Alex would probably not have gotten away with their lives; I wouldn't exist, and neither would the rest of my mother's side of the family. The END. :D
I agree with you here. War is never the answer, whether by NAZIs or ourselves.
Problem is with these few precious lives, millions more were killed in the outcome. A safe estimate is that 2.5 million were killed in Cambodia as a result of US agression against communism, during the vietnam war. Not to mention the vietamese.
War is never the answer for any agresssor. I'm glad you got out alright, but millions more did not. These are people neither of us may never know, and their deaths are never right.
MY point is about war, which may solve problems for a bit, but never solves any completely.
Alright Chief, in Hitler's sequel to Mein Kampf entitled "Zweites Buch" or "Second Book" written in the summer of 1928 (but unpublished until after the war) he detailed his entire plan for "world domination" so to speak. He talked about how he would systematically invade the US after he controlled Europe. The "final Solution" was in 1942, but his master plan (which I used instead of final solution, because they were different)did include an offensive against the continental United States.
thanks for setting me straight. my point still stands. Hitler would have used war to "solve problems", but would have created new ones (say an inevitable war directly initiated with the US)
i think non-intervention was reprehensible perosnally, but I'm looking at the big picture here
"If, however, the importance of the threatening American position of hegemony seems to be conditioned primarily by the value of the American Folk, and then only secondarily by the size of this Folk's given living space and the favourable relation between population and soil resulting therefrom, this hegemony will not be eliminated by a purely formal numerical unification of European nations, so far as their inner value is not higher than that of the American Union. Otherwise, present day Russia would necessarily appear as the greatest danger to this American Union, as would China, still more, which is inhabited by over 400 million people."
well then, he is talking about race here, and i completely disagree. but threat is not everything. hitler also argues for prevenitive war in chapter 5 (i think). This has been an interesting read, to say the least. IF only it wasn't based on bullshit
hey, summer of 1928!?!? Why, that's 13 years before the US entered the war! had we not entered the war, England would have fallen, and opened the doors to all of northern Europe. That would have put them in range to Fly the Atlantic and Bomb New York, again, all detailed in the Second Book.
Agression only leads to more agression, but its part of human nature, hell animal instinct, to fight.
fight or flight is the expession i believe. when we are directly in danger of losing our lives.
germany 1928-1945 was that drunk guy at the party who wants to fight everybody, and you think their just kidding around about your jewish friend, but then they go blitzkrieg and end up killing like half the people there.
this book was an unpublished manuscript, of which only two original copies are thought to exist. one was in a german air bunker from 1935 until a Us soldier recovered documents.
I am sure you can check the Wikipedia entry about it. An english translation was first availible in 2003, and i'm reading it right now (thank you much)
I'm glad you are enjoying it (or interested in it), I have only had time to browse it alittle and hit some highlights. I didn't know about it until I caught a History channel show about it...
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She later met and married my grandfather, Alex, and moved to the States with her two children Bosko and Ljiljana(my mother), not finding out her mother and first daughter were still alive til 8 years later. Alex joined the army immediately and fought against the Nazi's, being put in concentration camp and escaping with others several times. Papa came home, he and Maria had six more kids, blah blah.
Had America not gotten involved, both Maria and Alex would probably not have gotten away with their lives; I wouldn't exist, and neither would the rest of my mother's side of the family.
The END. :D
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Problem is with these few precious lives, millions more were killed in the outcome. A safe estimate is that 2.5 million were killed in Cambodia as a result of US agression against communism, during the vietnam war. Not to mention the vietamese.
War is never the answer for any agresssor. I'm glad you got out alright, but millions more did not. These are people neither of us may never know, and their deaths are never right.
MY point is about war, which may solve problems for a bit, but never solves any completely.
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thanks for setting me straight. my point still stands. Hitler would have used war to "solve problems", but would have created new ones (say an inevitable war directly initiated with the US)
i think non-intervention was reprehensible perosnally, but I'm looking at the big picture here
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"If, however, the importance of the threatening American position of hegemony seems to be conditioned primarily by the value of the American Folk, and then only secondarily by the size of this Folk's given living space and the favourable relation between population and soil resulting therefrom, this hegemony will not be eliminated by a purely formal numerical unification of European nations, so far as their inner value is not higher than that of the American Union. Otherwise, present day Russia would necessarily appear as the greatest danger to this American Union, as would China, still more, which is inhabited by over 400 million people."
well then, he is talking about race here, and i completely disagree. but threat is not everything. hitler also argues for prevenitive war in chapter 5 (i think). This has been an interesting read, to say the least. IF only it wasn't based on bullshit
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had we not entered the war, England would have fallen, and opened the doors to all of northern Europe. That would have put them in range to Fly the Atlantic and Bomb New York, again, all detailed in the Second Book.
Agression only leads to more agression, but its part of human nature, hell animal instinct, to fight.
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germany 1928-1945 was that drunk guy at the party who wants to fight everybody, and you think their just kidding around about your jewish friend, but then they go blitzkrieg and end up killing like half the people there.
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I am sure you can check the Wikipedia entry about it. An english translation was first availible in 2003, and i'm reading it right now (thank you much)
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