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Sep 12, 2011 10:58

[This Sunday afternoon, Franziska is sitting by her kitchen window, sunglasses perched atop her head and her whip coiled on her lap. By the angle of her NV, it appears to be propped up on a table several feet away.]I understand that there has been an influx of new arrivals lately. To those of you who don’t know me, my name is Franziska von Karma, ( Read more... )

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[Voice] gaveherwings September 12 2011, 01:08:08 UTC
How has teaching been suiting you so far?

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[Voice] dancing_pierrot September 12 2011, 01:10:38 UTC
Ah, Dr. Daedalus Yumeno... it's been rather refreshing, actually. The very best type of challenge, as it were. Some of my colleagues have told me that I may 'change my tune' further into the semester, but all the same, I fully intend to keep singing.

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[Voice] gaveherwings September 12 2011, 01:24:50 UTC
So they took well to your syllabus, the students?

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[Voice] dancing_pierrot September 12 2011, 01:27:27 UTC
That very much depends on your definition of 'took well'. But it is still early days yet.

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[Text] soul_scatter September 12 2011, 01:41:25 UTC
[An elegant flowing script:]

In Soul Society

1) Criminals are detained in the Senzaikyou, if they are shinigami. If not, then they are confined to the Second Division cells.
2) An investigation by both Ninth Division and the Central 46.
3) It depends on the crime. Most are confined within Second Division cells for the duration of their sentence.

If a death sentence is called for, and the criminal is shinigami, then they were taken to Soukyoku hill, and executed. If they are not, then it is carried out by the Central 46 executioner.

Banishment has also been used as a punishment. Shinigami are stripped of their powers and sent to the mortal world, to live out their lives - however long that might be.

There is a final, almost unheard of punishment: confinement to the dongai. Those sentences are for those deemed too dangerous to even execute and the smallest sentence is a millennia.

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[Text] dancing_pierrot September 12 2011, 01:55:26 UTC
Thank you for your response.

If I may, I have some further clarifications I would like to make:

1) Why are shinigami treated differently from the rest of the society? Is it because of the roles they have been tasked with?
2) What kind of personnel are involved with this 'Ninth Division' and 'Central 46'?
3) What is the 'dongai'?

No opinion of the state of matters in Siren's Port?

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[Text] soul_scatter September 12 2011, 02:02:11 UTC
1) Shinigami command powers that normal souls do not. They are treated differently - and, indeed, differently according to how much of those powers they wield - because those powers necessitate the difference.

2) The Central 46 is comprised of forty wise men and six judges gathered from all over Soul Society. They are the ruling body of Soul Society, by mandate of our King. Ninth Division is one of the divisions amongst the Gotei 13 and is comprised of shinigami.

3) The dangai is the precipice world; the area between the world of the living and Soul Society.

As for Siren's Port, I have not had much experience with it. Therefor, I cannot offer a proper opinion as of yet.

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[Text] dancing_pierrot September 12 2011, 04:05:03 UTC
It is probably for the best that you have managed to keep yourself separate from such matters while in this city, and are not causing undue stress on the system unnecessarily.

1) Would those powers allow them to escape from a ordinary prison, necessitating higher-security institutions to hold them?
2) How are these wise men chosen for this ruling body? Are they democratically elected or chosen by the King?
3) I'm assuming that this is an unpleasant location to be trapped within. You mentioned millennia. Are such extended life spans normal where you are from?

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madeinoblivion September 12 2011, 02:45:16 UTC
In Your Home Culture.
No trials where I'm from. The ones who were in charge did say they'd kill traitors to their group, and that's as far as it goes. But I think one of the worlds Sora went to had some kind of a court, but I don't know how that went. What the rules were, or- from how Roxas talked about that place, it was probably sort of topsy-turvy and whatever the Queen of the World said to do with criminals.

In Siren’s Port:

1) The police are pretty useless, for most things. I can't count on them to protect my friends, in a rough spot. They asked me a bunch of questions about the newcomer killer, once. I deal with corporate security more than I deal with police, whenever I've had trouble on company turf.
2) I know that they haven't been able to do much for Sam, so I'm not too impressed so far.
3) There's too many bad stuff that people get away with. Or the companies frame people up for, then use that to get people working for them.

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dancing_pierrot September 12 2011, 04:12:39 UTC
So, apart from traitors, how were other criminal behaviors dealt with? Or were there no behaviors that were defined as such, or were they simply overlooked?

Agreed. The court system here is rather similar to the one I am familiar with back home; slightly less efficient, but the structure's certainly there. The companies here are a significant course of corruption here in this city, unlike anything I have seen in a developed country back home.

In fact, it is that corruption, and the examination thereof, that has lead to my career change and projected future research in this direction.

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madeinoblivion September 12 2011, 06:37:20 UTC
I don't think there was anything really criminal- Um. Well, one of them would shock you for backtalking?

So you're going to teach people to be better at it? How many years is that going to take, till things are different?

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dancing_pierrot September 12 2011, 15:00:16 UTC
So, to take the most extreme example, that is, murder -- there was no penalty for such action that you are aware of in your home world?

And I am determined to continue in this field for as long as it takes, or until it is deemed no longer necessary.

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text leading3men September 12 2011, 03:01:13 UTC
Home:

1) Yes
2) Prosecution and Defense take turns at the witnesses and evidence, make statements
3) ...I think our justice systems are similar with the whole community stuff and prison.

Port:

1) I AM THE POLICE.
2) Yes. Part of the job. I won't call them fair yet since the companies have deep pockets.
3) Depends. Do we got the funding to dish out penalties? I haven't seen it.

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text dancing_pierrot September 12 2011, 04:29:45 UTC
Home: modern Earth, I'm assuming? Country and year?

Port:

1)'YOU ARE THE POLICE'? I take that to mean that you are currently in the employ of the SPPD. How long have you been working with them for?
2) How much of an influence do you perceive the corporations to have over the court system?
3) Let's say, hypothetically, the there was no monetary issue involved.

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text leading3men September 12 2011, 04:49:05 UTC
USA, 2009.

1) Around May.
2) A lot. As in, painfully a lot of influence. That AGI trial was a step up, for sure.
3) Certain laws need to be changed in order to make any justified penalties.

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text dancing_pierrot September 12 2011, 04:53:21 UTC
Yes, I am familiar with the area and time to which you refer. I myself was only ten years old at the time, but my father had me studying several court systems internationally from a young age -- the US was one of them.

1) What do your responsibilities with the police force entail?
2) By 'the AGI trial', are you referring to trial regarding the matter of slavery headed by Prosecutors Edgeworth and Armando?
3) Certainly, yes, but what, in your opinion, would constitute a 'justified' penalty?

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text PAINSTAKINGLY TYPED OUT SHE HATES THIS WHAT ARE KEYBOARDS fantasycliche September 12 2011, 03:24:33 UTC
home; 1. a holding cell. 2. a reliable witness was all that was necessary. incidentally, higher rankings make for more reliable witnesses. 3. death is the most common punishment. for less severe crimes lashings will do. port; i'm afraid i'm too new to answer any of these but i'm sure justice here is not so terrible.

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text STRANGE MACHINES DESIGNED TO INDUCE CARPAL TUNNEL? (1/2) dancing_pierrot September 12 2011, 04:32:19 UTC
'Ranking'? How were individuals in your society ranked? And was physical evidence taken into account at all?

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(2/2) dancing_pierrot September 12 2011, 04:32:56 UTC
Lashings, really?

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fantasycliche September 12 2011, 04:34:43 UTC
[ aaannnddd after like ten minutes of silence here she gives up and switches to voice. no one will ever see her frustrated keymashings of a reply. ]

Ranking, as in military. As in, the word of a general would have far more weight than a foot soldier. Evidence matters, if you could find the right people to present it to.

And, yes, lashings.

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