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May 17, 2007 13:07

I'm sure this happens to other people all the time, and not just me. You know when you read something in a book (say, in March of 2002), and can then never find it again ( Read more... )

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rhapsody11 May 17 2007, 21:49:04 UTC
Is it this footnote ( ... )

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elvses May 17 2007, 23:00:33 UTC
Not quite the one I'm seeking, but thank you for taking the time to look it up. I'm starting to think that the specific note I have in mind (if I didn't imagine it in the first place) is likely in a different HoME volume and not my Big Three of well-used reference material (10, 11 and 12). It's driving me mad. I may have to resort to looking up every single sodding index mention of Indis in all books until I find it.

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heartofoshun May 17 2007, 23:40:24 UTC
I am lazy as sin and tried to look it up the HoME volumes that I have in a computer searchable format (also the three you refer to) and all I found was the reference Rhaposdy cited above and other references that simply showed where he had changed the language in the text from a previous version. Like this: "Finwë took as second spouse Indis of the Vanyar, of the kin [> sister] of Ingwë."

One of the places I have found missing remarks that I thought I remembered from footnotes was in that book of letters of Tolkien. Could you have seen it there? Also, could it have been in that linguistic journal? Vinyar Tengwar. I only have one or two articles from that...so don't know what else might have been referenced in those articles.

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rhapsody11 May 18 2007, 08:07:55 UTC
Indis is covered in four books: Books of the Lost Tales part 1 (I started there), but she's not mentioned in the context you're looking for and HOME 10,11 and 12. Since you mentioned POME and MR, I looked in WoJ next, again nothing more than a mentioning of being a mom to Finarfin and Fingolfin. Alsos some intriguing stuff about falling off a clip and being Feanor's mom or being Finwë's first wife... This was the most relevant one I could find. I am thinking though... maybe it is mentioned, but not in the context of Indis.

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anonymous May 22 2007, 05:54:59 UTC
just wondering if you might (long ago)have read Michael Martinez' essay that addresses (in part) this subject, and perhaps (in the years in between) come to identify it with Tolkien:

http://66.218.69.11/search/cache?p=indis+ingwe+finwe&ei=UTF-8&fr=slv8-msgr&u=www.xenite.org/tolkien/final-eldarin-genealogy.html&w=indis+ingwe+finwe&d=Pur60PmdOr4H&icp=1&.intl=us

I'll be interested in knowing, otherwise, if you do find it. Best of luck!

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elvses May 23 2007, 02:17:05 UTC
You know, I think that's it. And it's very possible that I read this years ago and, in the time between, became confused in the jumble of many sources and misremembered the passage as a note on the text by Christopher Tolkien. Thank you for finding this. It's cleared up one mystery.

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