Disappointed in Tom Holland...

Sep 09, 2016 01:59

...writing in the New Statesman that he'd changed his mind about Christianity ( A few thoughts on the relationship between religion, mythology and fanfiction... )

fandom, julian ii, history, mythology, julian the philosopher, religion, fanfic

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syntinen_laulu September 9 2016, 17:09:37 UTC
The fixation Christianity has with "suffering" and "victimhood" has fed a culture of sadomasochism.

I couldn't agree more: it's the thing I most dislike about it, too. You're surely familiar with Rebecca West's Black Lamb and Grey Falcon?

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silverwhistle September 9 2016, 18:29:03 UTC
Yes. I also saw what it did to women in my family, especially my mother's (working-class Catholics). The idea that making yourself into a doormat was a mark of virtue. The idea that (especially if you were a woman) you should put yourself last, and then guilt-trip others about your 'self-sacrifice' to control them. (Passive-aggression is something it's very strong on.)

The fact that my great-aunt drank herself to death because the priesthood convinced her her illegitimate daughter burning to death in an accident at the age of 11 was a divine judgement on her (the mother's) 'sin' because she'd got knocked up by her husband's brother after her husband was killed in WW1.

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silverwhistle September 9 2016, 21:44:48 UTC
And it's possible to speak up for justice and humanity without all that bloody guilt-tripping and self-abasement, from a position of dignity and reason. As Julian wrote:
Who, I ask, ever became poor by giving to his neighbours? Indeed I myself, who have often given lavishly to those in need, have recovered my gifts again many times over at the hands of the gods, though I am a poor man of business; nor have I ever repented of that lavish giving ( ... )

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