I'm with koga on This

[silverkun]

Tonight, ladies and gentlemen, is not a victory; tonight is an opportunity for victory

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[adb_foldem]

Take heart: all the results so far are coming from the inland counties. The large cities and coastal areas HAVE NOT BEEN COUNTED YET (10PM)

[silverkun]

I think I'll sleep on that. It's 2am, local time, and though California seems happy to vote for the better treatment of Farm Animals by a margin of 63%, give or take, Prop 8 may pass with a 51.8% majority. The "yea" side has about 300k more votes over the "nays".

I'm glad I live where I live, and I don't see myself moving anytime soon. But if this should pass, I may go get license plates made in Oregon or something...

[tibicina]

I was just going to say. There's hope yet for Prop 8 being defeated, they're only at %25 reporting and which precincts and counties have thus far reported is heavily skewed towards the more conservative end of the political spectrum.

I'm worried, though. I think either way, it will be close. Though currently 4 is being voted down at least, which is a good sign if the more liberal areas haven't fully reported yet.

[silverkun]

Close isn't bad. I think it's simply important that it's only because there were, at best, 400,000 people that didn't vote against this proposition that it passed.

I'll keep an eye out, though.

-R

[honeb138]

I agree wholeheartedly. However, I am currently finding it very hard to be respectful to the yes on 8 folk.. I urge all of you that feel nervous and anxious at this point to remember that tomorrow and take action for equality for all Americans.

[koga]

If we read the constitution strictly, its calls for equality, if balanced with Prop 8's call for discrimination, requires the constitution to discriminate equally.

Proposition 8 sets the stage for the annulment of every Marriage in California.

[silverkun]

It has been my indirect experience that the Constitution is only read strictly if such a thing serves the reader's interest.

As bemusing as I find the concept of a Statewide Annulment (surprise, suckers!), I don't see it happening.

Even the buggers in the Knights of Columbus (a group to which some of my relatives and acquaintances belong) might ride to the defense in that event.

Or perhaps I'm simply being of mixed feelings and little sleep.

The morning will tell...:)

-R

[tibicina]

IT would be an interesting legal battle, though. And a fascinating case of 'No, they weren't a hazard to marriage; You, however, have been. Idiots.'

Honestly, I think that there should only be civil unions granted by the states for whatever couples, marriages should be a religious ceremony with no legal meaning.

Too many people are confusing legal/civil marriage with religious marriage, and it would help clear that up if they weren't the same word.

Heck, I'd even be willing to grandfather anyone currently married in as counting as already having a civil union.

[gwyndion]

Here here! I will drink to that! (We need to drink to something...)