[p/a/s, Patreon] The Problem of Subjective Facts

[siderea]

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[siderea]

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[cvirtue]

You may have addressed this in a post I missed, but emotional labor is something that women traditionally do, and that may be why it is discounted, not paid well, ignored, etc.

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[bugsybanana]

I can see a chicken-egg conundrum here: is it denigrated because it's women's work, or did it become women's work because its societal status is so low?

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[alexx_kay]

The post which originally linked to the big Emotional Labor discussion:
http://siderea.livejournal.com/1222864.html

A related post on Emotional Labor and Friendship:
http://siderea.livejournal.com/1223472.html

Here's a pdf summary of the Emotional Labor thread:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0UUYL6kaNeBTDBRbkJkeUtabEk/

[ashnistrike]

This is what worries me about the push to replace the current DSM categories with something brain-based. "Suppose we could make mental disorder not about squishy feelings at all? Wouldn't that be great?" No, that would not be great. It wouldn't even be better than the current set of biases and basket categories. Clinical diagnoses actually do need to capture the subjective fact of distress.

[anonymous]

A good example of subjective experiences being real, and recognised as real, is the mens rea of criminal offences.

[siderea]

It is a good example. I remain fascinating by how there's these rather sophisticated ideas embedded in the law, which, as I understand it, got there in the first place by jurists doing what they can to express commonly held sentiments and moral intuitions as legal principles, but which now seem to have fallen out of popular cognitive use.

My favorite example of that is the notion of manslaughter as distinct from murder, which is somewhat astonishing residing in the legal code of a people which generally believes "I didn't mean it" is entirely exonerating.

[anonymous]

This is an AWESOME post. I'm not an LJ user anymore, but a friend pointed me to this. Yer wicked smart, milady! Thank you!

--Suzannah