Heh! Interesting. We really have never seen Bra'tac with anyone who's been identified as a lover or romantic partner, nor have we heard of any in his history, have we? Sure, he's a recurring character, but still. Considering how much focus is put on Teal'c's familial and romantic relationships, you'd think we'd have heard something. So he's basically wide open, and your angle makes as much sense as anything else
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YES! You picked up on the two things I've thought of and didn't mention!
The Roman Army thing was *exactly* what I was thinking of, but then wasn't sure if it was the Romans or the Greeks. I've had practically no history classes on that/those eras. But yes, as I understand it, sex between men, especially younger/lower-ranked men was common and acceptable. Also not cheating on your wife, if you were married. I've always sort of assumed that the Jaffa were sort of modeled on the ancient Roman armies.
And rape. Yup, I suspect that rape was most likely a common entertainment for the Goa'uld. Promoting terror was their specialty and rape is one hell of a way to terrorize and dehumanize a population, not to mention harden your young warriors. I thought the same thing when Teal'c mentioned the horrible things he'd done in Cor-aiI always sort of figured that SG-1 would carry condoms, it was just really interesting to see that level of detail in a shot that only a few obsessive people like me would focus on and examine to a
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See, I seemed to remember something about Ancient Greek culture about how it was somehow more... edifying? wholesome? Healthy? to have sex with boys as opposed to women in certain circles. But that could also be just something I read somewhere with no basis in actual culture.
My Ex called it 'situational homosexuality' as opposed to it being an actual preference thing. I don't know if that's a real term or not, but he had a degree in Psychology, so it could go either way.
It was mostly the Greeks, and it wasn't just the military. Rich boys got tutors in rhetoric/culture/poetry/math/whatever. Their tutors were supposed to make them men, and that often included sex. In fact, such relationships were quite idealized and romanticized. Nor was homosexuality considered infidelity. After all, it wasn't like a man could actually love a woman or have any kind of interesting/intellectual relationship, now, was it? Women were for recreation and the production of heirs. Men and boys were for serious relationships.
The Jews (and hence early Christians) were horrified by Greek sexual immorality in general. Rampant homosexuality that included pedophilia as a matter of course was the most graphic example. Which has a lot to do with attitudes toward sex that got handed down through the Christian church to the modern world.
Romans: depends on the era. Homosexuality was real big in Greek circles, so in the time between when the Romans assimilated Greek culture and when they adopted Christianity, it would have been acceptable.
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YES! You picked up on the two things I've thought of and didn't mention!
The Roman Army thing was *exactly* what I was thinking of, but then wasn't sure if it was the Romans or the Greeks. I've had practically no history classes on that/those eras. But yes, as I understand it, sex between men, especially younger/lower-ranked men was common and acceptable. Also not cheating on your wife, if you were married. I've always sort of assumed that the Jaffa were sort of modeled on the ancient Roman armies.
And rape. Yup, I suspect that rape was most likely a common entertainment for the Goa'uld. Promoting terror was their specialty and rape is one hell of a way to terrorize and dehumanize a population, not to mention harden your young warriors. I thought the same thing when Teal'c mentioned the horrible things he'd done in Cor-aiI always sort of figured that SG-1 would carry condoms, it was just really interesting to see that level of detail in a shot that only a few obsessive people like me would focus on and examine to a ( ... )
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See, I seemed to remember something about Ancient Greek culture about how it was somehow more... edifying? wholesome? Healthy? to have sex with boys as opposed to women in certain circles. But that could also be just something I read somewhere with no basis in actual culture.
My Ex called it 'situational homosexuality' as opposed to it being an actual preference thing. I don't know if that's a real term or not, but he had a degree in Psychology, so it could go either way.
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The Jews (and hence early Christians) were horrified by Greek sexual immorality in general. Rampant homosexuality that included pedophilia as a matter of course was the most graphic example. Which has a lot to do with attitudes toward sex that got handed down through the Christian church to the modern world.
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I might die of amusement here. :D
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This is a thing of beauty! Now I owe you a drink at Dragoncon! surrealphantast will get you drunk all on our own ;)
Thanks so much! That was wonderful!
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