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[sholio]

(I *will* answer comments on the last post, btw; it's just that it takes a lot more time and effort to write about serious stuff than fannish stuff, and I've been trying to stay focused today on the original novel that I'm writing. So, it may take me a day or two, but I will get there

Comments

[kriadydragon]

I tend to be reluctant about watching deleted scenes these days as most are never worth the minutes wasted on them. But now I'm curious...

[sholio]

I really enjoyed these. The only problem was being a little sad that most of them weren't actually aired!

[with_apostrophe]

Hmmm...

I agree about most of the scenes not being in the show, in fact, most of them seemed awkward somehow - the extended scene between Carter and Ronon, for example, and Caldwell really did seem to be flirting with Carter on the Daedalus. Having said that, I liked the scene with Sheppard - it showed how much Caldwell has "softened", and how Sheppard responds to that.

I disagree about the TV scene, inasmuch as being glad it wasn't in the show. Yes, it is a bit "primitive is confused by Earth technology", but that's not all I got from it. Ronon's concern and immediate reaction that "we have to help these people" is really touching, even if it's misplaced. Plus it's BSG, a show almost devoid of humour, so having a humorous point made about it has a wonderful irony to it.

[sholio]

My "writer" side and my "fan" side really come into conflict on these sorts of things. *g* Nearly every deleted scene had little bits and pieces that, as a fan, I really wanted in there -- Sheppard and Caldwell's more relaxed relationship; the bits about Ronon's artistic tendencies, Caldwell's wife, and Sateda; the "thanks for not leaving" party for Ronon; Carter and Keller talking about boys. These are the things I want from my show. On the other hand, as a writer, I understand that if it's unnecessary, if it's deadweight, it has to go (and the Carter/Keller scene in particular, to me, felt padded and overlong in its original version).

It *does* really say a lot about Ronon that he's gone from a total lone-wolf to someone whose first impulse in a situation like that is to help people. Still glad that scene wasn't in there, though.

[argosy]

Agh. I traditionally (a long tradition, I know) get the SGA DVDs for my birthday, so I've been waiting in agony to see these missing scenes. But only a couple of weeks left! *excited*

[sholio]

Soon, soon! *g* I'm so delighted that they included missing scenes this time. (bwahaha ... let's try this again -- with the correct spelling of everything this time! *edits*)

[rhymer23]

I hated that Ronon TV scene. To me, it was totally shouting out, "hey! Aren't we being postmodern and witty, having fictional characters from a science fiction TV show talking about the unrealistic nature of science fiction TV shows." I squirmed with embarrassment even during the deleted scene, and was amazed when Joe Mallozzi (or whoever it was) said that he still loved the scene and wished it hadn't had to go.

I so mourn the loss of that "Ronon as artist" scene. We've been given so little to play with when we write Ronon (Sateda. Wraith. Revenge. Guns. Fighting. Guns. Fighting. And, yes, I know he's a lot more than that, but quite a lot of episodes and fanfics do reduce him to the snarling hard man who wants to shoot things.) Even in Sunday, when he has time off, his only chosen leisure activity that we see involves sparring. It would have been so great to have had a whole new facet of his personality to explore.

[sholio]

See, it would depend on how it played out, but the whole idea of someone momentarily thinking sci-fi is real because that's their daily life -- it cracks me up. Actually, I could see that happening to Sheppard or Rodney just as easily -- they turn on the TV, catch a clip of some sci-fi show or other, think it's actually a news clip and then relax when they realize, no, the Goa'uld haven't attacked Earth, it's just a TV show. *g* But the whole "let me explain to you this Earth thing called television" vibe of the clip really got on my nerves.

Of all the clips, the Ronon-as-artist one is the one I wanted most, for purely personal reasons. And it was so SHORT! How hard would it have been to cut another few seconds of the fight scenes to keep that in there? *weeps*

[tringasolitaria]

My reaction was mostly the same as yours. I too am glad they cut the Ronon BSG scene. I liked the Caldwell scene with Caldwell and Sheppard talking - I didn't care so much about the Caldwell/Sam scene. And yeah, I think they needed a little explanation in Trio about the transition, and it would have helped us (well, me anyway) understand better why Keller was going on like she was. I too wish they'd left in the scenes about Ronon as an artist - I like that concept. And I'm pretending the scene at the beginning of Miller's Crossing was left in anyway. :)

I didn't like some of Martin Gero's comments, though. I was particularly annoyed to find out that they've "abandoned" the concept of Sheppard being smart enough to be a Mensa candidate, and quite surprised to learn that MG believes that none of the characters like Zelenka.

[alipeeps]

The thing with MG is that you can't take everything he says seriously. His humour is very deadpan at times. I'm not sure how serious he was about the "Sure, Sheppard, like anyone believes you could have been Mensa!" thing (and anyway it's irrelevant as the initial reference to that was not Sheppard merely claiming that he could have been Mensa but actually stating that he took and passed the test (and backing that up by recognising a logic puzzle from the test - the Mensa thing wasn't just some idle boast as MG seemed to be implying) but I'm pretty sure he wasn't being serious about everyone hating Zelenka. :)

[sholio]

That's how I read MG's comments, too -- more like "I've been wanting to stick in a gag/comment about [x]" than "[x] is literally true". Especially seeing how the Sheppard comment played out in the show, I more got the idea that he was trying to express that they hadn't touched on that whole thing since the early seasons, and needed to bring it up again (Gero likes doing callbacks to previous episodes) than wanting to negate it. The way it was written played out as typical John/Rodney verbal sparring, and we *know* Rodney doesn't think Sheppard's a total idiot ... or hate Zelenka. *g*

[sholio]

I didn't like some of Martin Gero's comments, though. I was particularly annoyed to find out that they've "abandoned" the concept of Sheppard being smart enough to be a Mensa candidate, and quite surprised to learn that MG believes that none of the characters like Zelenka.

See my answer to Ali, above. I more saw that as "I've been wanting to put in a gag about [x]" than "[x] is literally true".

Which is not to say I didn't find the interviews annoying at times. There were times when I really wished they'd just give us the deleted scenes and stop telling us all about them. I tend to find a lot of commentary-type stuff has the same effect on me as the mega-long authors' notes that some people like to stick at the top of their fic -- it doesn't make me want to read the story, it just makes the author sound like an idiot. *g* I prefer to have the work stand on its own, usually.