Zoundous! I'm not following Torchwood beyond reading Spy's recaps (because they're usually very funny), but I'm bummed-by-proxy. I was getting used to the idea of undead!Owen. *huffs*
Heh...yeah. I'm glad I've never totally fanned on this show. (also glad that I got a glance at your post before watching - not enough to know what happened, just that it had made you WTF, so I was braced for Bad Things
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I admit to liking Jack/Ianto, but mostly on the, hmm, aesthetic level...there just aren't many sources of boykissing on TV, sadly. Owen & Tosh were by far the chars who interest me the most.
And I'm with you when it comes to Jack-fondness. I don't really care for TW!Jack...he was better this season, but he's way more fun in Who. And I've had the same complaints about JB's acting skills - gnine pointed out that as a West End actor, he's trained in an entirely different type of acting. You have to emote really broadly on stage, especially in musicals; it doesn't work nearly as well on TV. Especially when you're up against the likes of Burn Gorman, who's a master of the subtle. (Burn Gorman and David Hewlett playing off each other? DH can over- or under-act as well as the best Brits, from what I've seen...!)
Grey lived through years of torment, not hours' worth, so that's supposed to explain his insanity, I guess. But man, you are so right about the stupidity of the plot and the fact that only the Tosh/Owen death scenes had any real emotional validity. It's as if they came up with those scenes first, then said, "Okay - now let's write a story that will get us to these scenes."
I'm utterly pissed off at this show now, and it's not just because they have killed off my favorite character (and actor) right after they just gave him a chance to show how awesome he is. It's as though this whole show is a big experiment for them to see how we respond to various kinds of manipulation and abuse.
Well, screw that. I can just stick with SGA, where the bad decisions are the result of just plain cluelessness.
I apparently missed that part re: Grey. (Although, STILL. I need more than a throwaway line of dialogue or two to base an entire characterization upon.)
Sadly, this show makes SGA look good in all kinds of ways! I definitely get a "clueless yet well-meaning" vibe from SGA, as opposed to the "clueless and also, cruel and manipulative" vibe that I'm getting from an awful lot of the other shows I've been watching lately.
I like the series as a whole, but this season didn't make sense on several levels, the most glaring being that weevils and other aliens are running all over town and yet we see no headlines about their presence. The Cardiff rift ought to be public knowledge by this point, but it is still shrouded in secrecy. Or so the show would have us believe.
The most interesting part of this season has been the peeks at Torchwood in its early days, its many intriguing women characters who are brilliant and no-nonsense AND wearing corsets and bustles!
Okay, well, the Doctor returns tonight. Let's hope Catherine Tate isn't as annoying now as she was in the Christmas special.
*snort* Yeah. The "secret" rift makes even less sense than the "secret" Stargate project. (Along similar lines, one of the few things I liked about the Who Christmas special is the way that everyone in London went on vacation around Christmas because of all the bad things that habitually happened on that date. It made me laugh! But, er. Not so much with the secrecy, there.)
I actually liked Catherine Tate. My unpopular fannish opinions, let me show you them! I like that she's not a young ingenue and she's able to stand up to the Doctor and not especially inclined to fall in love with him.
I actually liked Catherine Tate. My unpopular fannish opinions, let me show you them! I like that she's not a young ingenue and she's able to stand up to the Doctor and not especially inclined to fall in love with him.
Unpopular? Anyway, I thought that Tate was fine in the episode. She did a good job of being the on-the-edge-of-crazy looking for her Doctor. I really enjoyed her performance, so that's a wonderful relief.
Well, I'd gotten the impression that most people found her annoying. *shrug*
I must admit that my interest in Doctor Who was pretty slight even before Torchwood, so ... I'm probably not going to be watching, at least for a while. I'll see if my friends list erupts into either squee or shrieks of fannish outrage, and make my decisions accordingly.
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http://community.livejournal.com/encycl_of_weird/5658.html?#cutid1
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Seriously ... shortest fan obsession EVER, I think!
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"Tosh! What are you doing here? ...On second thought, what am I doing here, I'm an atheist. What the hell? Er, Heaven, I mean?"
♥ ♥ ♥ !
That did cheer me up. A little. But. Yes. It's a happy thought to hold on to.
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And I'm with you when it comes to Jack-fondness. I don't really care for TW!Jack...he was better this season, but he's way more fun in Who. And I've had the same complaints about JB's acting skills - gnine pointed out that as a West End actor, he's trained in an entirely different type of acting. You have to emote really broadly on stage, especially in musicals; it doesn't work nearly as well on TV. Especially when you're up against the likes of Burn Gorman, who's a master of the subtle. (Burn Gorman and David Hewlett playing off each other? DH can over- or under-act as well as the best Brits, from what I've seen...!)
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I'm utterly pissed off at this show now, and it's not just because they have killed off my favorite character (and actor) right after they just gave him a chance to show how awesome he is. It's as though this whole show is a big experiment for them to see how we respond to various kinds of manipulation and abuse.
Well, screw that. I can just stick with SGA, where the bad decisions are the result of just plain cluelessness.
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Sadly, this show makes SGA look good in all kinds of ways! I definitely get a "clueless yet well-meaning" vibe from SGA, as opposed to the "clueless and also, cruel and manipulative" vibe that I'm getting from an awful lot of the other shows I've been watching lately.
*sigh*
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The most interesting part of this season has been the peeks at Torchwood in its early days, its many intriguing women characters who are brilliant and no-nonsense AND wearing corsets and bustles!
Okay, well, the Doctor returns tonight. Let's hope Catherine Tate isn't as annoying now as she was in the Christmas special.
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I actually liked Catherine Tate. My unpopular fannish opinions, let me show you them! I like that she's not a young ingenue and she's able to stand up to the Doctor and not especially inclined to fall in love with him.
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Unpopular? Anyway, I thought that Tate was fine in the episode. She did a good job of being the on-the-edge-of-crazy looking for her Doctor. I really enjoyed her performance, so that's a wonderful relief.
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Well, I'd gotten the impression that most people found her annoying. *shrug*
I must admit that my interest in Doctor Who was pretty slight even before Torchwood, so ... I'm probably not going to be watching, at least for a while. I'll see if my friends list erupts into either squee or shrieks of fannish outrage, and make my decisions accordingly.
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