Comments | ship_manifesto: They Say "Pride Goes Before Fall" - [Kratos Aurion/Zelos Wilder]

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They Say "Pride Goes Before Fall" - [Kratos Aurion/Zelos Wilder] - (Tales of Symphonia)

Apr 13, 2009 18:06

Title: They Say "Pride Goes Before Fall"
Author: daruki
Pairing: Kratos Aurion/Zelos Wilder
Fandom: Tales of Symphonia
Word count: ~8,000
Spoilers: The whole game and both characters' background story. Contains references from Tales of Fandom II and Tales of Symphonia: the manga.
Note/WARNING: This is a manifesto for a fanon ship. Therefore it goes ( Read more... )

#game, tales of symphonia

Comments 34

kurai007 April 14 2009, 03:04:43 UTC

And FINALLY it's been finished, edited and posted up! Like you might've heard me say: I've read a lot of manifestos, and this one definitely ranks up at the top--you worked hard (and wrote a damn lot) for a pairing that barely has any on-screen interaction (your 3.x section is STILL my favorite). All those couple of years shipping it like UPS really does show. the cross of your fandom indeed

and I still want to see that Zelos+Sheena vs Kratos+Raine scenario right now. ;D You already know what I'm going to say, so I'll cut it right here. But seriously: CONGRATS DARU. I'm so proud~ :)

daruki April 14 2009, 03:11:06 UTC

YOU.

Thank you for everything, waifu love. Never would have made so far without you. <3 I do, and you don't have to; I'm actually kind of sad to not have been able to rec anything from you, but god knows how much you've done for me... and them. <3

kurai007 April 14 2009, 05:30:12 UTC

theeternalmind April 14 2009, 03:06:39 UTC

Ahhh, I'm glad you found my translations useful! Though I cringe when I look at them now because I'm all, 'I really should have gotten someone to look over them and go, "Okay, yeah, this? Sounds awful in English," at me.' ^^;;; THEY'RE ONLY ABOUT A YEAR OLD, SOB.

Anyway, on the manifesto itself, I have to give you serious props for thinking this out so thoroughly, and using so many sources. It's not my cup of tea, but I have to respect anyone who thinks through their OTPs as completely as this.

daruki April 14 2009, 03:14:04 UTC

agkadjghs how did you find this

FFF IT'S COMPLETELY FINE, BETTER THAN ANYTHING I COULD EVER MAKE OUT OF, AND A CRAPLOAD OF OTHER PEOPLE TOO. WE LOVE YOU FOR MAKING THIS AT LEAST MARGINALLY UNDERSTANDABLE IN ENGLISH, SO THANKS A LOT.

I'm still working with straws. lllll THAT SET ASIDE. It's completely alright. It's because I feel so strongly about it that I wrote this, and like I said previously, just wanted people to acknowledge that they can interact. Thank you for commenting, and working out ToF2!~ <3

keltenaasule May 6 2009, 23:36:13 UTC

<333

Zelos/Kratos isn't my favorite pairing, but it sparks a kind of interest in me that no other pairing does. This is really nicely written and pretty much sums up wonderfully, I think, what all of us 'shippers were thinking.

daruki May 7 2009, 03:21:37 UTC

This is what I get for always shipping obscure things. 8|; But yeah, they really have this unique facet to their dynamic that's totally off-screen, which no other pairing I can think of has, which is what first drew me in. Thank you very much for reading and commenting!

heart_of_shou June 16 2009, 06:29:07 UTC

When I saw this essay, I have to say that I was ecstatic. Not because I necessarily like/support this pairing- I don't- nor am particularly curious about it, but because when I saw the length, the heavily implied time invested to pull off such a document, the organization, and professionalism my heart swelled with joy. I can only wish you congratulations on such a great feat that I truly, deeply wish more people could do, not limited to this pairing and this fandom, but to any fan relationship they care about. Some people are starting to assume the ToS fandom has died or is on its last legs and I'm so happy to see it's not so. Thank you so much for sharing this and best of luck with your future ventures.

^_^

daruki June 16 2009, 08:55:25 UTC

I'd argue about ToS since countless people will remember it always and ToS2's been out for a while now, but I get what you're saying.

Haha, thank you for the comment on the looks and structure, and while I do admit it's the drive and dedication, I'm not the only one doing this either. While there are countless of pairings and fandoms out there who could USE a manifesto, this community also houses MANY who already DO, or soon will. Anyone can do this - heck, you're welcome to write your own as well, if you would like to see something like this for a pairing you like - even in the ToS fandom. My love and 'loyalty' will forever stay with this pair, so for me, this was only natural and bound to happen at some point, regardless of how many years it took.

Fff. You don't have to put it that way, but yeah, same to you, o/

xflaired August 6 2009, 19:26:57 UTC

I realize you posted this up nearly, but thinking about this woke me up this morning when I would have happily slept in. :( SO I’M SAYIN’ IT. Its kinda TL;DR. I had a lot of time to think.

First of all, I absolutely love you for doing this manifesto. ;____;
And I agree with you-anything more than a platonic relationship between Kratos & Zelos would be hard to pull off believably. One way to being a relationship between them that I think would be the easiest (comparatively), would be hurt/comfort after they’ve gone through the student/teacher stage.

I think that people go looking for comfort with some degree of expectations. I’m upset, I want a hug. I’m feeling discouraged, and I want some reassuring words. It seems natural to me that Zelos would go about it the same way. However, Zelos likely doesn’t remember (or even know) a mothers comforting embrace. He’s never had a father’s reassuring words, and while his servants may have been sort-of surrogates for his parents for a while as a child, their level of willingness to provide ( ... )