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skippylikes in shelter_diner

Something that I've been wondering...

Jul 21, 2008 01:36

Does anyone actually think Jeanne would come back for Cody?
I've been reading all of the fics and it seems everyone is quick to go for the happily ever after appeal of Zach/Shaun and Cody, however they have to have that thought lingering for them. Zach has to be worried that after everything he's put into this family that one day it may all just ( Read more... )

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at_midnight July 21 2008, 09:23:33 UTC

i think you are right. if we see jeanne's track record, it IS possible that everything will fall apart with alan, and she is probably going home again to take cody. but who knows, maybe she will find another man in portland and stays there. so cody could be with zach/shaun.

i dunno how court works either in the u.s. system

skippylikes July 22 2008, 01:10:55 UTC

Yeah, she could definitely just jump from Alan to another guy. Gabe's comment about boyfriend of the week shows that she has done that in the past.

inthekeyofd July 21 2008, 13:34:19 UTC

If she stays with Alan, which I think she would, he is totally her "type" he's selfish as well, then she'd never come back for him, if things fall apart I think she'd play on her brother's feelings and try use them for her own means--meaning, she'd either want money or she'd try to drag him over the coals to get Cody back..either way, no one in their right mind would let her be a mother to him.

skippylikes July 22 2008, 01:14:32 UTC

Shelfish people don't really work well together as in the end they both end up wanting more from the other one and neither is willing to give it. I couldn't see her asking for money, for some reason, but I could see her trying to crash their family and put an excessive amount of stress on their relationship, utterly jeopardizing it in turn.

shopinchickcas July 21 2008, 16:38:12 UTC

I agree with you, that I think Jeanne MIGHT eventually come back for Cody, but at the end of the movie (on that scene on the front porch) she says to him (something like this... I dont have the movie with me, so I am just paraphrasing) "Even if this doesnt work out with Alan, he's better off with you".

I think that even if Zach didnt want to go thru all the legal stuff, or didnt think it was necessary, I think that Shaun would be smart enough (and skeptical enough) for the both of them to push to try to get Jeanne to sign her parental rights over to Cody.

Just my thoughts on it....
Cassie

skippylikes July 22 2008, 01:18:11 UTC

I know that Jeanne said that ,but she said that in a time that it benefited her to feel that way.Should the situation change...Jeanne has proven that what's best for her is more important than what is best for Cody. I'm not saying it would happen,but I imagine there's enough uncertainty on the situation to warrant a continuation on the story. Which is really what I'm trying to show here. I WANT MORE. :(

pairatime July 21 2008, 19:43:32 UTC

for a US court to give Zach custody, and it would be Zach not Zacha and Shaun and courts wouldn't even see Shaun as there, Zach would have to show that Jeanne was a very unfit caregiver because he's not a father and his age, his being gay would matter in some places but not in others.

skippylikes July 22 2008, 01:19:41 UTC

The courts would see Shaun as there, especially as he is the primary name on the lease and as such the primary caregiver to Cody...Cody is dependent upon him both emotionally and financially and as such his involvement would be taken into context.

pairatime July 22 2008, 08:52:29 UTC

that's part of the problem, the courts would want to see Zach being able to support Cody not Zach and Shaun. US courts tend to exnore non-married spouses when it come to supporting a child, my sister had problem because of that, and as Zach and Shaun aren't married, but they are in the right state it they want, the court is going to want to see Zach able to support Cody. In a fight I'm not sure Zach would win, he may be able to play the 'she abandoned Cody' card but...

jess_d_10 July 21 2008, 22:18:12 UTC

I think you bring up a really important point here. It is very easy to villainnise Jeanne, and I think a lot of people go straight to the purely negative interpretation of her. But the film does humanize her and while she is by far not a likable character, one can at least understand why she is the way she is to a certain extent, and you can see (especially in that final scene before she leaves for Oregon) her guilt over not being a good mother. And as Cassie pointed out, she does say that even if things don't work out with Allen, Cody is better off with Zach. So at least at that point, she understands that. Now, whether or not she will actually continue to hold true to this understanding is another story. As you very perceptibly pointed out, Jeanne is very like to return to her son's unconditional love after a series of failed relationships. Although there is a side of her that sees what is actually best for her son, no matter how much it hurts her, there is also a very selfish side of her that may overshadow the first ( ... )

skippylikes July 22 2008, 01:25:42 UTC

I agree that it definitely isn't the only possible situation, I feel like the happily ever after is possible.Part of me wonders if Cody would even miss Jeanne...if her absence would even really be noted when Zach and Shaun are being such strong parents.

I think that the biological mother appeal is a huge one, and if she was able to show that she would be there for him and prove her stability it would be a big step in her regaining her (rightful) custody.