awake and unafraid

Nov 11, 2010 08:36

Do you wanna know how bandom saved my life? No, it wasn't that video with the vampires. It was this ridiculous article, of all things.

Because suddenly it was fucking normal and okay to have a mental illness, it was something that rock stars did. Medication was something talked about in a frank, snarky, joking way by Pete.

And now this articleRead more... )

dance dance, the wolf house

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spafoom November 10 2010, 22:50:54 UTC
...personally, I don't think he's saying that 'Vampire Money' is against " shitty sell-out vampire novels" (and you could never be a sell-out, darling. Your art is too honest and wonderful and too much a part of you for you to even be capable of 'selling-out'.) I think he's saying that he was insulted and angry that people were trying to get them to record a song for the soundtrack for the sole purpose of moving units. The interviewer who inspired the song said directly "So, when are you gonna get in on some of this vampire money?". I think that he was more attacking the notion of doing something solely for the money instead of for the ~art~ or whatever. He's said before that he thinks commerce/distribution and art should be interconnected, so I doubt that he's mad at stuff for being popular, but. I DON'T KNOW. GERARD CONFUSES AND ANNOYS ME SOMETIMES ( ... )

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immicolia November 10 2010, 23:26:35 UTC
The word "sellout" has come to annoy me, because it gets bandied about so much that it's actual meaning has gotten warped to mean "if it is popular and you do it you must be a sellout... especially if I don't like it" when in actual fact it really means "you do it because it is popular and you just want your stuff to be popular too, not because you actually enjoy it or believe in it." THERE IS A DIFFERENCE! A HUGE ONE! Gah. (I'm sorry, I had to get that out, it's been bothering me for a while. I agree with your thoughts a great deal. ^^)

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aphephobia November 11 2010, 00:54:35 UTC
To me, selling out is making it big on being honest or promoting an idea, and then changing your mind and going back on all of that when you've made it big. Like... I dunno: if Green Day ever played for a Republican convention in honor of Dubya's time served as president or something.

(I'll admit: I don't like anything Radiohead's done since OK Computer, but I wouldn't call them sellouts. They're still behind the causes they were all for in their early days, they've just changed their sound to one I'm not into, IYKWIM.)

Or... like what these guys have done.

(And... surely I'm not the only one seeing the irony here that they're the ones whinging about selling out, right?)

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immicolia November 11 2010, 01:29:56 UTC
I admit, I think my alternate view of it is mostly because I tend to take my art (music especially) on a simple "do I like this?" basis, and interpret it though myself while paying very little attention to the people behind it, and what they may have actually intended. I don't read interviews or really follow the media, and as such I rarely notice when artists pull douchebag moves shifts in opinion. (it's probably terribly shallow and ill-informed of me, I know this. But even bands I love more than anything, I've never been big on seeing them beyond what they create. I just enjoy listening to the music and seeing what it says to me personally. It's just my way... which is certainly nowhere near anyone else's way, and probably not a very good way ultimately. But it's mine.)

But I totally, totally get what you're saying. (and in this sense, no you're not the only one seeing the irony) also, your icon! :D

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nabii November 10 2010, 23:04:25 UTC
i think we all do.

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nova_bright November 10 2010, 23:34:05 UTC
I am going to say the words 'pure' 'jersey' 'art school' and 'people thought we were british' a lot.

Also I love you and am currently getting ready to come over to your place of abode.

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aphephobia November 11 2010, 00:46:25 UTC
I'd rather see you being super safe because you're taking your medication than think of you in the throes of a mental health crisis because you're not and it's edgy or some bullshit. Seriously. I've seen that many people fucked around by mental health issues and secondary ones stemming from them-- self harm, addiction, living life recklessly-- and not in that romantic "chase your dreams" way, in that "I don't give a fuck if I die" way-- that I get really fucking angry when people glorify and romanticise mental illness ( ... )

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wemblee November 11 2010, 07:43:37 UTC
Maybe if you're a rock star and you have the luxury of just going to bits and then getting your arse hauled off to Betty Ford and an expensive shrink when it all caves in on itself, it's okay to be "not safe and not clean," but for theh rest of us: no. It's fucked.

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Hang in there, Mary.

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themegs November 11 2010, 05:28:18 UTC
Their phrasing hit home for you in an unfortunate way but you're not who they're talking about. You write what you love; not what you think will sell. And you don't write Bella Swans.

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