On the off-chance I needed a reminder why I married him...

[shadowravyn]

Me: "So, ddrpolaris and I have been discussing the homophobia implicit in Chuck."

Me: *prepares to defend statement*

shogunhb: *snorts* "Not to mention the deep-seated fear of women."

Me: *momentarily gapes*

shogunhb: *continues making dinner

Comments

[londo]

Given how much time he spends near your breasts, I fully expect shogunhb to be familiar with a deep-seated fear of women.

[mpgalvin]

[shogunhb]

Part of the what I notice in Chuck is that certain inappropriate behaviors are pointed out as inappropriate and some are not.

Jeff and Lester are definitely the "bad geeks". Morgan is sort of semi-functional (possibly to allow for character growth), and Chuck is the "good geek". The show points out the error of certain stalk-ery behavior, hygiene issues, and some gross sexual objectification of women, but generally affirms and condones many negative gender and sexuality stereotypes, seemingly without irony.

[rgfgompei]

Huh, so I don't know anything about this show at all but my experience with geek men has generally been that they have great respect for women, presumably because there are so few in the geek community, so they have learned that alienating any of them is REALLY bad, and, presumably, because the geek community is one where braininess is encouraged so geek women are less likely to conform to a ditsy stereotype than other women, giving geek men less exposure to such models. I guess I don't even have a concept of what a "bad geek" is. I have a concept of the geek who is less socially apt than most (which may involve bad hygiene) but they tend to be offensive to all genders equally.

Are these guys a representation of how the world sees geeks?

[shogunhb]

Mostly, Jeff and Lester are offensive to everyone, but there is an undercurrent of misogyny. Much as I like to think geek culture is more respectful of women in general, it's not always the case.

We had a panel at Lunacon discussing the portrayal of geeks in mainstream media... no idea how that panel went though, I was working programming ops during the con.