Dial the Gate: Inauguration

Oct 11, 2010 12:51

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aelfgyfu_mead October 11 2010, 11:30:52 UTC
I hardly remember this episode. I like Woolsey anyway. I got tired of Kinsey ages ago, because you're right: he's over the top. I'm also deeply tired of religious fanatics on tv.

I also don't like the enemy on Earth. It seems to be a fan fiction trope: there must be an Enemy Within. Sometimes it plays out within the team, which I hate (Sam is jealous of Daniel; Jack is cold and sabotages the team emotionally). More often, it's from outside the team but inside the SGC (Marines bully Daniel, or another team leader is temporarily assigned Daniel and either sets him up to fail or actively tries to get him killed, or . . . you probably know these better than I do, you seem to have read more!). I see it with other fandoms, too.

I really don't get it. Where does this drive to have an internal enemy originate? Occasionally it's done well, but mostly it feels like sloppy writing to me, whether it's on tv or in the fanfic.

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sg_fignewton October 11 2010, 14:17:54 UTC
I'm also deeply tired of religious fanatics on tv.

Heh, yes. The writers should haul some other ridiculous cliche out sometime. ...Oh, wait. There was that whole S9-10 thing, sigh.

I don't object to the idea of what you call the Enemy Within - sometimes we are our own worst enemies. (Absolute Power, anyone? And Replicarter?) But the idea that the SGC is beaten down and beaten down, and that no one on Earth has integrity and value except them, makes for very poor storytelling.

Sadly, yes, I have read every one of these tropes that you mention here. More times than I care to remember.

As for Woolsey, my fondness for him is from the mutant bug ep in S9, when he was limping through the forest with his shirttails hanging out. That charmed me for some reason. :)

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aelfgyfu_mead October 11 2010, 16:53:25 UTC
I don't object to the idea of what you call the Enemy Within - sometimes we are our own worst enemies. (Absolute Power, anyone? And Replicarter?)
Oh, that's different! Maybe I should use a different name than Enemy Within. Wolf in the Fold, maybe? With Daniel in "Absolute Power," and RepliCarter, we see our characters facing sides of themselves they'd rather not know-but fighting against them.

Like you, I find the idea that everyone is against the SGC, and some powerful people within it and the government are rotten (Samuels, Maybourne, Kinsey, etc.) overdone. The occasional bad apple? Sure. But the SGC should be weeding those out really fast, when one makes it through the initial screening somehow. And Kinsey's just ridiculous.

(A big part of my problem with SGU, and the reason I'm probably going to leave it (again) is that many of the characters there appear to be the incompetents or the rotten apples that we don't even see on the show on SG-1, but pretty much only in fanfic. They're running much of the Destiny. That's a rant for ( ... )

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cleothemuse October 11 2010, 17:10:55 UTC
He can recognize mistakes and improve, even if he doesn't always make steady progress.

...and even if that progress isn't necessarily in the direction we'd want. His bad decisions regarding Khalek informed his decisions regarding the Prior-itized Daniel.

This episode was what made me realize Woolsey wasn't just a "bad guy" and not a "good guy", but maybe just a guy.

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