Love: The final frontier -- The world's design is smarter than Intellient Design

May 12, 2008 21:40

There's a lot of talk that frames romantic love as a failing institution.
This talk often confuses 'marriage' for 'love'--marriage is an institution; not love.
Then there's talk of the duration of love as a measure for its success---I didn't know it was a long-distance race!
There's also talk of love related to possession, interchange, and ( Read more... )

self-extraction, design, future, politics, perfection, choice, freedom, humanity, progress, possession, love

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"The elbow does not bend outwards." nyuanshin May 13 2008, 04:59:11 UTC
"I thought it was born far before"

I'm curious about what underlies this. There are ways I can interpret it so that it makes sense, but I think I'd rather you expand on it than me read in.

I know not this "pure choice" of which you speak -- choices have contexts and reasons, and it seems you're plumping for some kinds of reasons over others (for reasons that I would probably agree with if they were stated explicitly). Choice is always constrained -- if it wasn't, it wouldn't be choice!

The third para hits on one facet of my perennial obsession --

"There is a crack in everything
That's how the light gets in."
-- L.C.

Cracks. Imperfections. Poetry. Arbitrage. Entrepreneurship. Invention. Discovery. A response to a perceived lack of something -- exploring frontiers, not just further along a given dimension but in whole new dimensions. Ways of finding new things when you don't necessarily even know what you're looking for -- just awareness of a niche that needs filling. A sense of something more lying just over the horizons of our ( ... )

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Re: "The elbow does not bend outwards." sethisalive May 13 2008, 05:09:09 UTC
:)

1.) Love as an act is a manifestation of something born far before the act. If you hate yourself, you hate the world, that's what you've been and who you've become, once you start loving it ain't gonna be very lovely.

2.) The context for "pure choice" as I worded it would be the second part of the sentence I put it in: "rather than choosing to love in order to fulfill a perceived lacking within oneself or to abate pressure from society or others or comitting to something that they aren't quite ready for." *Not wanting to talk about notions of (free) will here*

3.) Yeah! Gotta love the lacking, both real and perceived. :)

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nyuanshin May 13 2008, 05:37:52 UTC
OK, so I was on the right wavelength after all. :)

Re: (2), good call -- it's all that worth talking about anyway. ;) "Pure" is just one of those words I've learned to get cagey around because it tends to breed confusion. That aside, I think I still can't be comfortable with the context -- how can you love if you lack nothing? What other reason is there? I think "love gone wrong" is what happens when people try to fill their lacks/cracks with the wrong things.

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nyuanshin May 13 2008, 05:41:52 UTC
I should probably add here that in my mind, love, compassion, and identification are all rather distinct concepts.

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sethisalive May 14 2008, 15:19:36 UTC
*staring back*

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