The Pond Goodbye (spoilers)

Sep 30, 2012 20:14

TATM was a fantastic piece of television. So why did it intrigue rather than move me?

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scarfman September 30 2012, 19:45:33 UTC

Is it so hard to deduce that the regeneration energy trick can only be pulled off between those who regenerate?

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sensiblecat September 30 2012, 20:22:54 UTC
Well, I wondered about that. But it would be nice to have it explained - particularly as River can't regenerate any more. Maybe he was just returning her favour in LKH?

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parrot_knight September 30 2012, 20:29:34 UTC
That's what I assumed; River's cells are presumably still 'open' to whatever this energy is, as the Doctor's were. I suspect this may have implications later.

The removal of the Doctor's details from most or all databases is presumably something we will come back to later on, given Oswin seems to have started it. The effect must be causal chaos.

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wendymr September 30 2012, 20:34:16 UTC
Without a clear signal within the text, one could just as easily say it can only be done between spouses. Or those who can fly a TARDIS independently. Or any other unique connection between the Doctor and River I could think of. This is one of my problems with Moffat's writing, again and again: he leaves too many things unexplained, where a five-second throwaway line would tidy them up nicely.

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canterlevi September 30 2012, 23:49:10 UTC
I guess there's no chance The Doctor's going to pop back to Chiswick and use some of that way-cool regenerative energy to undo the massive fail that was Donna's meta crisis?

No, I didn't think so either.

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aearwen2 October 1 2012, 01:07:05 UTC
I have been far less invested in Steven Moffat's take on the DW universe, have taken a VERY long time to even begin to warm up to Matt Smith's Eleventh doctor, and never DID particularly like either Rory or Amy ( ... )

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sensiblecat October 1 2012, 07:50:06 UTC
I think what we don't see is that these showrunners aren't just creative types working alone in a garret. They are charged with growing a brand. It's pretty clear that SM's overall target - which he might not have been personally responsible for setting - is to break America for DW. That means writing to a very tight 40 minute slot, allowing for commercial breaks, and while he seems to have big budgets to play with, he's also under pressure to dig into formats that will be familiar to an international audience. Hence this "big movie" season, and (for all we know) building up the Doctor into the caricatured tweedy nerd that is, supposedly, what ticks the "quirky English man" boxes abroad ( ... )

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alienfish October 1 2012, 12:28:14 UTC
You remember First Night/Last Night? I'm assuming you watched them. And what I remember is how angry I was at a certain point in Last Night. After the Doctor's sent River off, he says happily that she never changes. I was all "Are you people kidding me? You're never going to let her grow in the series? She's never going to modify from this wall-bouncing adult-child to the woman in Silence in the Library ( ... )

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