EDIT EDIT: There are some spoilers for both Decade and Kabuto in the comments. Sorry, I guess readers just have to be careful, or just read the post (I like the comments, though; thanks to everyone who has contributed
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I think Tsukasa has a bit of both: he is kind of an ass and does indulge Yusuke and Natsumi and lets them think they're in control sometimes, mostly when he can take advantage of the situation, but at the same time he has had scenes when seemed legitimately surprised to be scolded or put back in his place, when he stopped and realized he'd probably overdone it because Yusuke or Natsumi sounded like they meant business this time. He obviously felt guilty over Yashiro's death, and the whole thing about protecting Yusuke's smile in Agito world was pretty much him trying to redeem himself a little bit for his epic screw-up in Yusuke's world
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True, Tsukasa let Yusuke and Natsumi do their own things, mostly when it suits his purpose. But yes, sometimes he does look genuinely surprised that he has messed up and needs either of those two to remind him to not step over the line
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hahaha in the end I reposted this XDhonou_no_izumiMay 30 2009, 13:30:31 UTC
THIS. XD
Nowadays people just love to throw the Sues and Stus labels without knowing what they truly means. (just like the occ label- it's Out of Character orz so it should have been OOC instead~)
I used to think that Tendou Souji kinda like a Stu at first before his character started to show more and he doesn't appear Stu anymore. Yeah... I probably had bias on loving most of the main riders... but hey, as long as the characters are written well, I'll love them.
At least not as bad as some of the fan OC riders that I sometimes stumble to...
Re: hahaha in the end I reposted this XDsennetariMay 30 2009, 16:16:42 UTC
(Oh, now that I'm reading your comment again when I'm more awake, I'm going to jump in.)
I must have been lucky to never seen occ label in the fics I read. ^^;
Tendou--hmm...I'm actually pretty conflicted about this character. He does seem like a Stu, who, I think, ends up with only one real weakness--his sisters. But I like him in spite of how super human he is. (Or maybe I just like Hiro Mizushima. ^^) On the other hand, I have only recently admitted to myself how unlikable Tendou is when I see someone plays him in a roleplay, quoting his non-existent grandma and making life miserable for everyone, which is just so scarily in character.
Anyway, I suppose I'm glad I never really try to read OC riders. ^^;
I think actions wise he's perfect. He's a wandering Kamen Riderpediea; made for the job of dealing with each world. I think social wise, he's less than perfect. In the same tree as Tendou Souji but definitely a different branch.
You're right about Tsukasa just seems to know things without (obvious) explanation, but I never really thought of that. Probably because I tend to suspend disbelief with this kind of thing. Back in episode 1, the show had him acknowledged that he remembered how to fight but nothing else associated with it , but that's probably the most vulnerability he's willing to admit.
I agree that Tsukasa is so not perfect, social wise, in that he just can't seem to act nice for people who put up with him, even though he probably does know how. And yes, he is different from Tendou (other than the (nearly) non-existent people skill, which, imo, leads to boasting about his power and about his ability to fix other people's lives). This is just my opinion, of course, but to me, Tsukasa says/does things with (most of the time) intention to provoke, knowing full well he's being a jerk, but either doesn't care or hides it well, whereas Tendou is so larger than life that he seems to not really be aware that he's rubbing most everyone the wrong way.
I believe it *does* bother him that he can't remember his past. But, I think he acts so calmly about it because he doesn't care about his past as much as the present and future. "As long as I can take pictures..."
Tsukasa...can't help but pick on certain types of people in a friendly-bully type of way. Tendou was the same way. (Except for him it was mostly just Kagami). And for at least half of the time, both are more...immersed in doing what they do to be aware of certain social etiquette. Tendou was better at pulling this off becuase he had that unearthly charm about him. Tsukasa is...well Tsukasa. XD He comes off as more arrogant than omnipotent. And even then he seems more comical than annoying.
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Nowadays people just love to throw the Sues and Stus labels without knowing what they truly means. (just like the occ label- it's Out of Character orz so it should have been OOC instead~)
I used to think that Tendou Souji kinda like a Stu at first before his character started to show more and he doesn't appear Stu anymore. Yeah... I probably had bias on loving most of the main riders... but hey, as long as the characters are written well, I'll love them.
At least not as bad as some of the fan OC riders that I sometimes stumble to...
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I must have been lucky to never seen occ label in the fics I read. ^^;
Tendou--hmm...I'm actually pretty conflicted about this character. He does seem like a Stu, who, I think, ends up with only one real weakness--his sisters. But I like him in spite of how super human he is. (Or maybe I just like Hiro Mizushima. ^^) On the other hand, I have only recently admitted to myself how unlikable Tendou is when I see someone plays him in a roleplay, quoting his non-existent grandma and making life miserable for everyone, which is just so scarily in character.
Anyway, I suppose I'm glad I never really try to read OC riders. ^^;
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I agree that Tsukasa is so not perfect, social wise, in that he just can't seem to act nice for people who put up with him, even though he probably does know how. And yes, he is different from Tendou (other than the (nearly) non-existent people skill, which, imo, leads to boasting about his power and about his ability to fix other people's lives). This is just my opinion, of course, but to me, Tsukasa says/does things with (most of the time) intention to provoke, knowing full well he's being a jerk, but either doesn't care or hides it well, whereas Tendou is so larger than life that he seems to not really be aware that he's rubbing most everyone the wrong way.
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Tsukasa...can't help but pick on certain types of people in a friendly-bully type of way. Tendou was the same way. (Except for him it was mostly just Kagami). And for at least half of the time, both are more...immersed in doing what they do to be aware of certain social etiquette. Tendou was better at pulling this off becuase he had that unearthly charm about him. Tsukasa is...well Tsukasa. XD He comes off as more arrogant than omnipotent. And even then he seems more comical than annoying.
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