Say it with figures

Apr 13, 2005 14:08

In our first term we banished the demons of […] mass unemployment …

Tony Blair, in "The Labour Party manifesto 2005"


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atreic April 13 2005, 13:31:49 UTC
Humour us morons and remind me when labour first got elected?

But you're not argueing about the outside loos, are you? :-p

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senji April 13 2005, 13:39:47 UTC
I didn't know that schools still had outside loos in 1997, however a quick google produces this page which suggests that maybe I should be arguing about that…

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senji April 13 2005, 13:56:10 UTC
Oh, and I edited the dates in for you, as well :)

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cartesiandaemon April 13 2005, 13:38:44 UTC
I think it was Clinton who used the third derivative: "The rate of increase of inflation is going down." ie. things are getting worse faster than before.

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senji April 13 2005, 13:40:39 UTC
However even further derivatives appear to be unhelpful to the Labour cause here.

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senji April 13 2005, 14:33:15 UTC
Inflation is already a first derivative.

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khendon April 13 2005, 14:22:40 UTC
I think that's a little unfair.

There's nothing to indicate that under the Tories the cyclical pattern wouldn't have continued, rather than a steady downward fall. Just because the Tories happened to leave on a downward stint in the graph doesn't mean it would have carried on in that direction.

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senji April 13 2005, 14:29:09 UTC
This is indeed true; it would be fair for them to say "maintained the downwards trend in unemployment figures" or similar. "banished the demon of mass unemployment" is sheer hyperbole though.

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generally caused ewx April 13 2005, 16:51:22 UTC
You don't think spiralling oil prices had anything to do with them, then?

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requiem_17_23 April 13 2005, 15:18:52 UTC
Redefinition of unemployment one factor.

Independent central bank another! That turns a destabilising force on the economy (stupid politicians messing up interest rates) into a damping term on the economic cycle (conservative bankers working to keep growth steady and inflation low). Best thing Labour have ever done for the country, except possibly founding the NHS.

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Independent central bank mooism April 13 2005, 16:41:45 UTC
Labour actually opposed this during the 1997 election campaign. I remember listening to a radio phone-in the week after that election, a caller was complaining that he wouldn’t have voted Labour if they’d said they’d make it independent.

It was in some ways a refinement of the previous chancellor’s policy. Kenneth Clarke instituted a schedule of monthly meetings between himself and the governor of the Bank of England, to decide on interest rate changes.

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ilanin April 13 2005, 17:40:33 UTC
Including founding the NHS, which was actually a mistake, not that I'm supposed to say that out loud, so I'll hide now.

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