Link time

Oct 23, 2012 07:44

For some recent, in recent days I got more spam on lj than I got otherwise in five years. Are we due for another breakdown?

Until then, have some links, both fanfiction and meta:

Prometheus:

Persephone . It's post-movie fic by legendary-in-several-fandoms Yahtzee, developing the complicated relationship between ( those characters alive by the end of the film )

joss whedon, meta, avengers, gone with the wind, prometheus, mark gatiss, batman, elementary, sherlock, fanfic recs, galaxy quest

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futuresoon October 23 2012, 07:03:50 UTC
In fairness to Mark Gatiss, that tweet's thoroughly fake. There's no sign of it on his twitter account. Admittedly, that could mean he deleted it, but he strikes me as the sort of person who stands by their mistakes. So it's just a case of someone deciding the best way to express their dislike of him is to be a lying asshole about it.

Joss Whedon's response to criticism is pretty great, though, that one's true.

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selenak October 23 2012, 12:51:27 UTC
Admittedly, that could mean he deleted it, but he strikes me as the sort of person who stands by their mistakes.

Well, the curse of the social media is that something you in older days would have said as part of a private conversation (and which thus would have remained a private opinion) is all over the internet in seconds if you use twitter/facebook/tumblr/lj/whatever. And I could imagine he posted, then thought better of it and deleted it - we all do and say the occasional dumb thing.

Mind you: if someone faked the twitter (just Gatiss' or also Jonathan Ross'?) then it's indeed an attack on Mark Gatiss. But did he say it was faked?

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futuresoon October 23 2012, 16:54:26 UTC
But did he say it was faked?

I should have thought of that--I haven't seen any articles about him decrying it. And, as you say, private opinions are nobody's business, so if he quickly realized that and deleted it, he at least had enough social etiquette to know he'd done something stupid. I hold out hope for him not being an asshole in this particular regard.

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kalypso_v October 23 2012, 13:16:08 UTC
Could be it's fake, could be Gatiss decided it was small-minded and deleted it. My experience of press conferences (and indeed reading interviews*) and the news stories subsequently generated from them is that it is a very bad idea to make a throwaway remark and particularly a joke, because it will be reported as if it was (a) deadly serious, and (b) the main point of the press conference/interview. And yet people are obliged to keep giving press conferences and interviews in an attempt to keep the press and public sweet.

Anyway, it's left me very sceptical of any statement attributed to just about anybody where I can't actually hear a recording to be certain of the precise phrasing and tone of voice, ideally backed up by pictures to indicate body language. Twitter is not such a medium.

* I'm thinking of the hysterical reaction to the closing lines of a recent Radio Times interview with Benedict Cumberbatch, in which he was asked about "posh-bashing" and replied that, because his parents sent him to Harrow, he was "castigated as ( ... )

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andraste_oz October 23 2012, 10:24:40 UTC
Oooh, thank you for the Scarlett meta. I am looking forward to exploring that properly when I have a bit more time. I love GWTW (the book) and Scarlett and have often felt abashed admitting it; this looks like some excellent discussion!

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selenak October 23 2012, 12:48:26 UTC
Enjoy! And LOL about the Geoffrey of Monmouth icon.

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danielleleigh October 23 2012, 11:43:41 UTC
Pfister shouldn't have said it but he actually said it in the private space of the classroom (Ringling College of Art and Design where I teach). Someone in that class contacted a journalist which is how it got on the Huffingtonpost and, then, EW.com. I mean, yes, he should NOT have said it but someone in that classroom (either a student or someone visiting because he was there) repeated what he said to a member of the press, which is a violation, really, of the trust of the teacher-student relationship.

I mean, he's an Oscar-winning Cinematographer, who was there to teach film students about lighting and creative collaboration in film. So. Uh. I think we can cut him a little slack? (Others claim he was misquoted and since he NEVER spoke to a journalist in person about this, we can't know for sure....while I wasn't in that classroom, I did see him speak twice on campus, and, yes, he's not a fan of that film, but I don't know what he actually said about it in the classroom).

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selenak October 23 2012, 12:47:46 UTC
I agree that making such a statement as part of teaching a class is different from giving an interview and deliberately saying it to a reporter (which is what I had assumed he'd done).

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ponygirl2000 October 23 2012, 11:53:00 UTC
While sour grapes is never a good idea, I have a lot of sympathy for the Sherlock team. I imagine CBS' Elementary advertising budget alone is probably considerably more than PBS paid for the American rights for the entire series.

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blpurdom October 24 2012, 16:44:41 UTC
I'm enjoying Elementary far more than I ever did Sherlock, and feel that the lack of UK Sherlock's addiction issues is a glaring omission in a supposedly contemporary but also supposedly more "faithful" adaptation. I also just like all of the actors far better.

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