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maigrey_star April 23 2011, 21:00:37 UTC
Oh. I love, love that scene, it's definitely my favorite and you're right is also the one that makes the couple and Benedick for me.

Your mood picture is so fitting! I can't believe I'll be seeing them as Beatrice and Benedick in June. :D

I hope you don't mind I'm friending you since I love your post on The Good Wife and others shows...

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selenak April 24 2011, 02:41:08 UTC
re: Benedick, what makes him partly also occurs a bit earlier than that - he's the only man at the wedding party not to jump immediately to the conclusion Hero is guilty, which even her father does at first, instead doing the sensible thing and first asking Beatrice whether she and Hero didn't share a room, and working from an "innocent till proven guilty" and not a "guilty till proven innocent" assumption re: Hero. Until this point you could wonder whether Benedick was indeed worthy of Beatrice, beyond having a quick wit, and whether he's mature enough for a real relationship. But that's where he starts showing he's a good man.

I am absolutely envious you'll see DT & CT in this play!

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shezan April 23 2011, 22:46:37 UTC
Lekha Dodi is PERFECT for "She walks in beauty". Remarkable.

... you know about Da Ponte, of course?

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selenak April 24 2011, 04:58:28 UTC
Da Ponte: That he was originally Jewish, or something else?

Given that Isaac Nathan was the son of a Kantor, I assume he played the melody for Byron in advance so he'd know how to tailor the verse to it...

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shezan April 26 2011, 15:30:44 UTC
Yes, of course, and that he reverted back once in New York.

There are many melodies for Lekha Dodi; I meant the words, whose symbolism is very close.

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shezan April 23 2011, 22:48:08 UTC
(Also, from the depth of the Drôme countryside, HAPPY EASTER to you & the APs!)

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selenak April 24 2011, 05:17:21 UTC
Thank you! We're having a lovely weekend, photographing lots of Easter wells (see other post).:)

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fallingtowers April 24 2011, 18:02:21 UTC
It's my favourite scene from the play, too: Beatrice's line "Kill Claudio!" gives me the chills every time, and her outburst "If I were a man, I'd eat his heart in the marketplace!" is both oddly cheering and utterly heart-wrenching. Also, I quite like that it brings her together with Benedick (as these two are my Shakespearean OTP) and highlights her affection for her cousin. I can't wait to see Tennant & Tate doing this particular dialogue!

I completely agree with your assessment on the importance of that scene for Benedick, too. I once showed this film version to a bunch of friends, none of whom has either seen it before nor read the play. They started out eye-rolling at him and sort of not taking him seriously. After that bit, everyone liked him all of a sudden (and the Claudio Hate-o-Meter had gone up to 11 :D).

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selenak April 24 2011, 19:37:06 UTC
Claudio is lucky because Bertram (from All's Well That Ends Well) exists, as this means he's not my most loathed Shakespearean Youth Not Meant To Be A Villain. Otherwise...

Also, I quite like that it brings her together with Benedick (as these two are my Shakespearean OTP) and highlights her affection for her cousin. I can't wait to see Tennant & Tate doing this particular dialogue!

And I so envy you for having the chance to. Also, yes, that's another great aspect of the scene!

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