Meanwhile, in the 60s...

Oct 26, 2010 15:10

The first part of the weekly SJA two parter was greeted with much squee by me and made me very happy, but you won't get a review until I've seen both parts, i.e. tomorrow. In the meantime, reading in various papers various people's reactions to the Keith Richards memoirs makes for an odd demonstration of how relaxing it can be not to be in a fandom ( Read more... )

rolling stones, bob dylan, beatles

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kalypso_v October 26 2010, 14:32:28 UTC
I've heard the story before, but you're right, it never gets old. I think it's the social embarrassment that really makes it so funny.

"not our idol!"

George was probably too busy analysing his guitar technique. Oddly, Dylan has a disconcertingly Georgish look in that Hard Rain clip...

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selenak October 26 2010, 17:47:35 UTC
Probably. I mean, it has nothing on the different type of social embarassment when they finally met Elvis, but it's special on its own. :)

*rewatches Hard Rain section* You're right, he does look Georgish.

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airie_fairy October 26 2010, 16:29:19 UTC
I'll have to try harder to find the Bob influence in You've Got to Hide Your Love Away, because really that just sounds so John to me.

You've reminded me of the Eat the Document outtakes of Bob slowly ODing in the back of a car while John sits next to him trying not to show how incredibly uncomfortable he is while the camera man in the front seat totally fails to grasp the gravity of the situation.

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selenak October 26 2010, 17:53:57 UTC
I'll be lazy and copy Wik on the Bob in YGTHYLA:

The song shows the influence of the American singer Bob Dylan. The song "is just basically John doing Dylan", McCartney later said.[1] Lennon seems to mimic Dylan's gruff vocal style: the song is in a folkish strophic form and uses a Dylanesque acoustic guitar figure in compound time, chiefly acoustic accompaniment, no backing voices and light percussion from brushed snare, tambourine and maraca. The lyrics of Dylan's 1964 song "I Don't Believe You (She Acts Like We Have Never Met)" open with a strikingly similar image: "I can't understand, she let go of my hand, and left me here facing the wall", as compared with Lennon's "Here I stand head in hand, turn my face to the wall".

Of course, in 1970 John would write a song with "I don't believe in Zimmerman" along with "I don't believe in God" and "I don't believe in Beatles"...

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airie_fairy October 26 2010, 19:20:04 UTC
He doesn't owe nothin' to nobody, that John Lennon...

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selenak October 26 2010, 20:20:52 UTC
:) Not between 1970-1972, at least. Thereafter he was happy enough to rave about idols and influences when in the right mood - hell, that rock'n roll album was meant as a love declaration to Buddy Holly, Elvis & Co., and so was Starting Over in 1980.

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skywaterblue October 26 2010, 17:21:22 UTC
(With a sad note in as much as Brian, looking at himself in the mirror, pointed, said "Jew" and giggled, the first time he referred to himself as Jewish in company, which tells you something about Brian's issues and repression.)

*heart breaks*

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selenak October 26 2010, 17:48:14 UTC
Brian is probably the most tragic character in the entire saga.

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skywaterblue October 26 2010, 17:59:26 UTC
Agreed, I want to reach through time and space and give him a hug. And some anti-depressants.

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selenak October 26 2010, 18:34:07 UTC
Both would be good, though maybe one should also introduce him to a nice boy who doesn't end up robbing him at knife point.

(Incidentally: Allen Ginsberg had met Paul and John via Barry Miles and John Dunbar and ended up hanging out with Paul a couple of times. Someone should have thought of introducing Ginsberg to Brian, because he could have given him the "it gets better" speech and been convincing.)

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