On the issue of the show confounding fanon (which in my opinion is usually a good and healthy thing), I think you may be conflating two different issues - at least as far as I and not the general mood of fandom are concerned. There's a difference between wanting Veronica to fall back into Logan's arms and wanting her to realize that she and Duncan are no longer right for each other. The former makes no sense within the show's current context. The latter is simply the truth as I grew to understand it over a season and a half, and the notion that the writers are now trying to convince me that Veronica and Duncan are soulmates is not a little bit disturbing to me
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Wallace is unquestionably the boy in Neptune who gets Veronica best, which paradoxically might be because they don't see each other as dating material, but have a sibling-like relationship. And I have no doubt he understands her far better than Duncan, but that doesn't mean Duncan doesn't see any of Veronica's changes since the first time they dated at all. As for him acknowledging the existence of Detective!Veronica, he definitely did so in An Echolls Christmas(when she solved the mystery of what had happened to the poker money, or was that in another season 1 episode), and he came to her for help upon finding out Meg had written about a child being abused
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there is no indication he sees Veronica as something other than the clever, acerbic young woman she became.
There's also no indication that he does see her as that, though. There's no indication that what he feels for her is something that he feels for her; he could just be Generic Guy and she Generic Girl, for all it would matter to their relationship. But then I continue to be unconvinced that Duncan has a personality at all, which is the biggest reason why I can't believe that Veronica loves him and not the idea of him.
And I don't say this as a V/L shipper because I'm really not one. I love Logan but I want to see his interactions with Weevil and with Aaron Echolls rather than Veronica. And frankly I think his feelings for Veronica were a simple transference of what he felt for Lilly.
Lamb “may be a son of a bitch, but he’s our son of a bitch”. So when it’s FBI agent versus Lamb, I ultimately sympathize with Lamb.*g* Yep, me too. I also liked the Lamb-Veronica scenes a lot. I like how his dislike and suspicion of her actually
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Ah, thank you for writing about this episode, which I loved so much I watched it twice. I totally agree with you about Duncan and Veronica -- they do love each other; their relationship probably isn't forever; and they'll always be friends. Veronica and Keith both broke my heart several times over.
I really like it, too, that Lamb, while still a smug idiot, is also beginning to develop into a character rather than just a caricature.
True about Lamb. Both he and the Vice Principal were just caricatures of smug dumb authority last season, but this season strike me as genuine human beings.
Duncan’s less than stellar chances of obtaining custody of the baby in a legal way, plus Meg’s explicit wishes, I can understand why the whole Duncan-kidnaps-the-baby plan seemed to Veronica the only option.
At least the show wants us to believe this, and so I have to take off my lawyer hat (a baby CAN'T be adopted against the birth father's wishes, and vis a vis Meg's parents, he'd have presumptive custody, and visitation at the very least; I have to take a deep breath and say TV ALWAYS GETS FAMILY LAW WRONG, TV ALWAYS GETS FAMILY LAW WRONG). I don't understand the anti-Duncanness in fandom but, then, I haven't seen all of last season -- and I'm with you on finding the Lamb scenes the best part of the show.
I think the anti-Duncanness wasn't there last season because last season, Duncan wasn't perceived as an obstacle to Logan/Veronica; he was the ex and the murder suspect. This season - well, call it the Riley effect.
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There's also no indication that he does see her as that, though. There's no indication that what he feels for her is something that he feels for her; he could just be Generic Guy and she Generic Girl, for all it would matter to their relationship. But then I continue to be unconvinced that Duncan has a personality at all, which is the biggest reason why I can't believe that Veronica loves him and not the idea of him.
And I don't say this as a V/L shipper because I'm really not one. I love Logan but I want to see his interactions with Weevil and with Aaron Echolls rather than Veronica. And frankly I think his feelings for Veronica were a simple transference of what he felt for Lilly.
Lamb “may be a son of a bitch, but he’s our son of a bitch”. So when it’s FBI agent versus Lamb, I ultimately sympathize with Lamb.*g* Yep, me too. I also liked the Lamb-Veronica scenes a lot. I like how his dislike and suspicion of her actually ( ... )
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I really like it, too, that Lamb, while still a smug idiot, is also beginning to develop into a character rather than just a caricature.
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At least the show wants us to believe this, and so I have to take off my lawyer hat (a baby CAN'T be adopted against the birth father's wishes, and vis a vis Meg's parents, he'd have presumptive custody, and visitation at the very least; I have to take a deep breath and say TV ALWAYS GETS FAMILY LAW WRONG, TV ALWAYS GETS FAMILY LAW WRONG). I don't understand the anti-Duncanness in fandom but, then, I haven't seen all of last season -- and I'm with you on finding the Lamb scenes the best part of the show.
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also, the thing's going to YouSendit right now, or at least i hope so.
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